Boris Johnson, chess and Brexit metaphors

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Boris Johnson, chess and Brexit metaphors

Post by John McKenna » Sat Jul 27, 2019 2:39 am

See -

https://en.chessbase.com/post/chess-bor ... son-brexit

Then ask yourself - can he really make the required moves to avoid, zugzwang, stalemate and checkmate?

Unless he can he's bound to lose, one way or another.
To find a for(u)m that accommodates the mess, that is the task of the artist now. (Samuel Beckett)

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Re: Boris Johnson, chess and Brexit metaphors

Post by Tim Spanton » Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:32 am

I would have thought stalemate was just about the best we could hope for with Brexit - a win seems highly unlikely
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Re: Boris Johnson, chess and Brexit metaphors

Post by NickFaulks » Sat Jul 27, 2019 11:27 am

Tim Spanton wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:32 am
I would have thought stalemate was just about the best we could hope for with Brexit - a win seems highly unlikely
It seems to me that this is a definitive example of an Armageddon game. Either we leave on 31/10 or we don't - anything "in between" is an EU win.

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Re: Boris Johnson, chess and Brexit metaphors

Post by Tim Spanton » Sat Jul 27, 2019 11:33 am

Or maybe a double-default
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Re: Boris Johnson, chess and Brexit metaphors

Post by John McKenna » Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:00 pm

Tim, I agree that Boris is in a very difficult position - handed down thirdhand from his far from great predecessors.

In Brexit stalemate is worse than just losing - it's like being tortured interminably while awaiting execution.

Mercifully, Boris may be the proverbial end with horror rather than the horror without end...

When all is done only this may remain to be said of us by the Commandant of the Foreign Legion -
The attempt at mutiny is over, my children. You bungled it so much it wasn't really a mutiny. But you'll be punished as though it were.
To find a for(u)m that accommodates the mess, that is the task of the artist now. (Samuel Beckett)

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Re: Boris Johnson, chess and Brexit metaphors

Post by Tim Spanton » Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:11 pm

But stalemate is not worse than losing - stalemate is a draw (assuming we are sticking to correct chess metaphors).
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Re: Boris Johnson, chess and Brexit metaphors

Post by JustinHorton » Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:11 pm

What this thread has in common with Brexit is that when it's all over we will never want to do it again
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Re: Boris Johnson, chess and Brexit metaphors

Post by Nick Burrows » Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:29 pm

NickFaulks wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2019 11:27 am
Either we leave on 31/10 or we don't - anything "in between" is an EU win.
If we leave on 31/10 it is a disaster for us and a hit to the EU, therefore anything "in between" is a bigger win for us than it is for the EU.

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Re: Boris Johnson, chess and Brexit metaphors

Post by Tim Spanton » Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:54 pm

A win is 1pt whichever way you look at it … unless you ae suggesting the rules of the Brexit tournament specify 3pts for a win, 1pt for a draw
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Re: Boris Johnson, chess and Brexit metaphors

Post by Paul McKeown » Sat Jul 27, 2019 4:52 pm

NickFaulks wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2019 11:27 am
Either we leave on 31/10 or we don't - anything "in between" is an EU win.
Surely a greater loss for the UK and a smaller loss for the EU, but losses nevertheless. In this farce played out by the Conservative party, there is no possible win for any party, whatever the outcome. The best outcome is minimisation of the losses.

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Re: Boris Johnson, chess and Brexit metaphors

Post by Phil Neatherway » Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:00 pm

I think there is a win for the SNP in the event of a no-deal Brexit.

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Re: Boris Johnson, chess and Brexit metaphors

Post by Nick Burrows » Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:15 pm

Phil Neatherway wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:00 pm
I think there is a win for the SNP in the event of a no-deal Brexit.
But perhaps not for Scotland

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Re: Boris Johnson, chess and Brexit metaphors

Post by Nick Grey » Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:52 pm

You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave!

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Re: Boris Johnson, chess and Brexit metaphors

Post by John McKenna » Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:48 am

"Boris is a chessplayer - he's ten moves ahead of everyone." (A caller to an LBC Radio phone-in this morn)
Nick Burrows wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:15 pm
Phil Neatherway wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:00 pm
I think there is a win for the SNP in the event of a no-deal Brexit.
But perhaps not for Scotland
Boris is poised to sally forth on a campaign in Scotland to try to hammer the Scots into shape.
To find a for(u)m that accommodates the mess, that is the task of the artist now. (Samuel Beckett)

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Re: Boris Johnson, chess and Brexit metaphors

Post by IM Jack Rudd » Sun Jul 28, 2019 12:54 pm

Thread about politics moved to Not Chess!

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