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Boris Johnson, chess and Brexit metaphors

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 2:39 am
by John McKenna
See -

https://en.chessbase.com/post/chess-bor ... son-brexit

Then ask yourself - can he really make the required moves to avoid, zugzwang, stalemate and checkmate?

Unless he can he's bound to lose, one way or another.

Re: Boris Johnson, chess and Brexit metaphors

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:32 am
by Tim Spanton
I would have thought stalemate was just about the best we could hope for with Brexit - a win seems highly unlikely
https://beauchess.blogspot.com/

Re: Boris Johnson, chess and Brexit metaphors

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 11:27 am
by NickFaulks
Tim Spanton wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:32 am
I would have thought stalemate was just about the best we could hope for with Brexit - a win seems highly unlikely
It seems to me that this is a definitive example of an Armageddon game. Either we leave on 31/10 or we don't - anything "in between" is an EU win.

Re: Boris Johnson, chess and Brexit metaphors

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 11:33 am
by Tim Spanton
Or maybe a double-default
https://beauchess.blogspot.com/

Re: Boris Johnson, chess and Brexit metaphors

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:00 pm
by John McKenna
Tim, I agree that Boris is in a very difficult position - handed down thirdhand from his far from great predecessors.

In Brexit stalemate is worse than just losing - it's like being tortured interminably while awaiting execution.

Mercifully, Boris may be the proverbial end with horror rather than the horror without end...

When all is done only this may remain to be said of us by the Commandant of the Foreign Legion -
The attempt at mutiny is over, my children. You bungled it so much it wasn't really a mutiny. But you'll be punished as though it were.

Re: Boris Johnson, chess and Brexit metaphors

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:11 pm
by Tim Spanton
But stalemate is not worse than losing - stalemate is a draw (assuming we are sticking to correct chess metaphors).
https://beauchess.blogspot.com/

Re: Boris Johnson, chess and Brexit metaphors

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:11 pm
by JustinHorton
What this thread has in common with Brexit is that when it's all over we will never want to do it again

Re: Boris Johnson, chess and Brexit metaphors

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:29 pm
by Nick Burrows
NickFaulks wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2019 11:27 am
Either we leave on 31/10 or we don't - anything "in between" is an EU win.
If we leave on 31/10 it is a disaster for us and a hit to the EU, therefore anything "in between" is a bigger win for us than it is for the EU.

Re: Boris Johnson, chess and Brexit metaphors

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:54 pm
by Tim Spanton
A win is 1pt whichever way you look at it … unless you ae suggesting the rules of the Brexit tournament specify 3pts for a win, 1pt for a draw
https://beauchess.blogspot.com/

Re: Boris Johnson, chess and Brexit metaphors

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 4:52 pm
by Paul McKeown
NickFaulks wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2019 11:27 am
Either we leave on 31/10 or we don't - anything "in between" is an EU win.
Surely a greater loss for the UK and a smaller loss for the EU, but losses nevertheless. In this farce played out by the Conservative party, there is no possible win for any party, whatever the outcome. The best outcome is minimisation of the losses.

Re: Boris Johnson, chess and Brexit metaphors

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:00 pm
by Phil Neatherway
I think there is a win for the SNP in the event of a no-deal Brexit.

Re: Boris Johnson, chess and Brexit metaphors

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:15 pm
by Nick Burrows
Phil Neatherway wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:00 pm
I think there is a win for the SNP in the event of a no-deal Brexit.
But perhaps not for Scotland

Re: Boris Johnson, chess and Brexit metaphors

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:52 pm
by Nick Grey
You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave!

Re: Boris Johnson, chess and Brexit metaphors

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:48 am
by John McKenna
"Boris is a chessplayer - he's ten moves ahead of everyone." (A caller to an LBC Radio phone-in this morn)
Nick Burrows wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:15 pm
Phil Neatherway wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:00 pm
I think there is a win for the SNP in the event of a no-deal Brexit.
But perhaps not for Scotland
Boris is poised to sally forth on a campaign in Scotland to try to hammer the Scots into shape.

Re: Boris Johnson, chess and Brexit metaphors

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2019 12:54 pm
by IM Jack Rudd
Thread about politics moved to Not Chess!