Pedants United

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Nick Grey
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Re: Pedants United

Post by Nick Grey » Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:05 pm

3) Virginia Wade.

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Re: Pedants United

Post by Ian Thompson » Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:21 pm

Nick Grey wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:05 pm
3) Virginia Wade.
3) Laura Robson (2008).

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Re: Pedants United

Post by Nick Grey » Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:10 am

any para winners as we ought to be inclusive

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Re: Pedants United

Post by Neil Graham » Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:47 pm

Ann Haydon and Angela Mortimer were both Wimbledon singles winners in the 1960s.

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Re: Pedants United

Post by Paul Habershon » Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:32 pm

Current 'Spectator' magazine, p.11:
'...when Robert Redford walked passed me...'

Not ignorance, of course, but a reminder that spellcheckers can't be perfect subeditors.

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Re: Pedants United

Post by Kevin Thurlow » Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:41 pm

"Not ignorance, of course, but a reminder that spellcheckers can't be perfect subeditors."

I was expecting the two "s-words" to be hyphenated, but they're not. Curses, foiled again.

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Re: Pedants United

Post by MJMcCready » Sun Sep 27, 2020 4:02 am

Not really, as metioned. Language isn't owned by anyone. The process of standardization is becoming bittier and bittier. It's just damage limitation these days . We've become more aware/and better but its an uphill battle and a half.

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Re: Pedants United

Post by MJMcCready » Sun Sep 27, 2020 4:07 am

A real challenge lies within functionality and form working together yet form takes greater significance when this is often or quite often not the case. Context assists with the wrong chosen wrong usually but regarding function, sometimes it can just, but usually not.

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Re: Pedants United

Post by Paul Habershon » Sun Sep 27, 2020 5:33 am

MJMcCready wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 4:07 am
A real challenge lies within functionality and form working together yet form takes greater significance when this is often or quite often not the case. Context assists with the wrong chosen wrong usually but regarding function, sometimes it can just, but usually not.
Could the above generously be described as jargon, or is it just 'Mark - my words'? 😏

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Re: Pedants United

Post by Tim Spanton » Sun Sep 27, 2020 8:59 am

MJMcCready wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 4:02 am
Not really, as metioned. Language isn't owned by anyone. The process of standardization is becoming bittier and bittier. It's just damage limitation these days . We've become more aware/and better but its an uphill battle and a half.
Are you sure it's an uphill battle?

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Re: Pedants United

Post by MJMcCready » Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:22 am

Well it carries more weight and the breadth of imported words is greater than before, also the process of acceptance into the OED isn't as rigorous as it used to be but I think this is, in part, to giving into pressure. I think they are doing a better job but have, perhaps, bitten off more than they can chew.

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Re: Pedants United

Post by MJMcCready » Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:29 am

I suppose you could say there are less dialects to deal with, perhaps Scottish being the only (official or otherwise) one.

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Re: Pedants United

Post by Tim Spanton » Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:36 am

Tim Spanton wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 8:59 am
MJMcCready wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 4:02 am
Not really, as metioned. Language isn't owned by anyone. The process of standardization is becoming bittier and bittier. It's just damage limitation these days . We've become more aware/and better but its an uphill battle and a half.
Are you sure it's an uphill battle?
Actually, I was being pedantic about your "its" in the last sentence.

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Re: Pedants United

Post by David Sedgwick » Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:43 am

MJMcCready wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 4:02 am
The process of standardization is becoming bittier and bittier. It's just damage limitation these days.
I think that you mean "standardisation". I only allow American in Grand Chess Tour documents.

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Re: Pedants United

Post by Tim Spanton » Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:49 am

David Sedgwick wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:43 am
MJMcCready wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 4:02 am
The process of standardization is becoming bittier and bittier. It's just damage limitation these days.
I think that you mean "standardisation". I only allow American in Grand Chess Tour documents.
Actually, z is not an Americanism - it used to be standard British English, as can be seen in dictionaries.

For example, if you Google z or s in English the top result deals with organisation/organization:

There is a belief that it is spelt with an 's' in the UK and in the US with a 'z'. In fact, while the US spelling is with a 'z' the UK preferred spelling is also with a 'z' and as an alternative with an 's' if you follow the guidance from leading authoritative dictionaries.

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