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Sergey Karjakin sanctioned by the European Union
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2025 8:20 am
by LawrenceCooper
Re: Sergey Karjakin sanctioned by the European Union
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2025 4:50 pm
by NickFaulks
"He was previously a chess Grandmaster, and was suspended due to his statements in support of Russia’s war of aggression against Ukraine."
Re: Sergey Karjakin sanctioned by the European Union
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2025 5:10 pm
by NickFaulks
https://ratings.fide.com/profile/14109603
Yes, he was suspended, but for six months from 22nd March 2022. So is he suspended now?
https://ethics.fide.com/suspensions-in-force/
Apparently not.
Ethics has made no decisions since 7th August 2024 and there are no pending cases. I wonder what they are doing.
Re: Sergey Karjakin sanctioned by the European Union
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2025 5:21 pm
by Paul Cooksey
Emil on x last year wrote:As disgusting as his actions are, Karjakin would have only benefited from another ban. The role of a martyr is popular these days. He was banned two years ago, and is barely playing now - only inside his country. FIDE acts wisely, depriving SK of case for propaganda statements.
Re: Sergey Karjakin sanctioned by the European Union
Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2025 10:39 am
by Mick Norris
Karjakin played in the
Chess Stars-2025 5.0 in Moscow
Re: Sergey Karjakin sanctioned by the European Union
Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2025 11:37 am
by Gerard Killoran
Whoever wrote this doesn't know that Karjakin is still (and always will be) a Grandmaster.
Compare and contast the EU's attitudes toward Russia and Israel. A lesson in rank hypocrisy.
Re: Sergey Karjakin sanctioned by the European Union
Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2025 3:25 pm
by Matt Mackenzie
Hypocrisy is an ever present in international affairs and always has been.
Though however bad Israel undoubtedly is currently, it remains the case that they aren't threatening to invade large swathes of Europe.
Re: Sergey Karjakin sanctioned by the European Union
Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2025 4:46 pm
by Gerard Killoran
Hypocrisy is an ever present in international affairs and always has been.
You almost make it sound like a bad thing,
Though however bad Israel undoubtedly is currently, it remains the case that they aren't threatening to invade large swathes of Europe.
And that's all that matters, eh?
Re: Sergey Karjakin sanctioned by the European Union
Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2025 7:11 pm
by Matt Mackenzie
Well, there is a strong argument it *does* matter and that trying to pretend otherwise is not terribly realistic.
Re: Sergey Karjakin sanctioned by the European Union
Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2025 10:43 pm
by Gerard Killoran
Matt Mackenzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 03, 2025 7:11 pm
Well, there is a strong argument it *does* matter and that trying to pretend otherwise is not terribly realistic.
I'm not the one pretending anything, or trying to excuse rank hypocrisy.
As for the 'strong argument', I'd like to hear it.
Re: Sergey Karjakin sanctioned by the European Union
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2025 10:37 am
by Christopher Kreuzer
Matt Mackenzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 03, 2025 7:11 pm
Well, there is a strong argument it *does* matter and that trying to pretend otherwise is not terribly realistic.
That comes perilously close to saying that Gaza (and Palestine) does not matter.
I would argue that the Middle East and the simmering Iran-Israel conflict and getting Israel to stop its killings in Gaza are equally as important in terms of getting a resolution to the Ukraine-Russia conflict. The Ukraine situation is relatively contained, and Putin (no fool) currently intends to keep it that way (long-term, this theatre/region is less easy to assess).
It is a sad indictment on Western political leaders and some others worldwide (not the diplomats and mediators, who for the most part do tend to do their utmost to get something sorted on the ground) that while there is only so much effort that can be expended on the world's conflicts in terms of resolving them and applying economic, political and logistical (i.e. arms supply) pressure, they (the political leaders) do seem to put more effort in for conflicts that their electorates care about.
Maybe the recent primary election result in New York will signal a change there?
Re: Sergey Karjakin sanctioned by the European Union
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2025 4:41 pm
by Matt Mackenzie
Christopher Kreuzer wrote: ↑Fri Jul 04, 2025 10:37 am
Matt Mackenzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 03, 2025 7:11 pm
Well, there is a strong argument it *does* matter and that trying to pretend otherwise is not terribly realistic.
That comes perilously close to saying that Gaza (and Palestine) does not matter
No, it doesn't have to mean that at all. It is plainly a very important thing and many care about it for totally legitimate reasons.
Re: Sergey Karjakin sanctioned by the European Union
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2025 6:23 pm
by IM Jack Rudd
As this thread is obviously developing into one about international conflicts in general rather than about the suspended chess player, I have moved it into Not Chess!
Re: Sergey Karjakin sanctioned by the European Union
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2025 6:58 pm
by Gerard Killoran
Matt Mackenzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 04, 2025 4:41 pm
Christopher Kreuzer wrote: ↑Fri Jul 04, 2025 10:37 am
Matt Mackenzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 03, 2025 7:11 pm
Well, there is a strong argument it *does* matter and that trying to pretend otherwise is not terribly realistic.
That comes perilously close to saying that Gaza (and Palestine) does not matter
No, it doesn't have to mean that at all. It is plainly a very important thing and many care about it for totally legitimate reasons.
So will I ever hear this 'strong argument'?