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Water and electricity gotten cheaply to anywhere

Post by PeterTurland » Fri Nov 12, 2010 3:54 pm

Hello,

I have had this idea and I've put it about in various places and nobody has come back and told what is wrong with it.

So now I'm trying it out on the ECF chessirs.

People believe in stuff, what is true is true, whether you believe it or not. The only thing we have is evidence.

There are approximately 31 million cars on British roads, the vast majority of which, are pumping out carbon monoxide and carbon dioxide. I would be much surprised if this did not affect the climate and possibly in ways we cannot predict.

It appears that the salinity of the water near the north pole is the on off switch to the dynamo of the gulf stream. As the earth's atmosphere heats up, (by what ever means) more polar ice melts and fresh water is dumped in the Arctic Ocean , which below a level of salinity stops the sinking effect that freezing 'salt water' has that drives Europe's central heating system, the irony being, global warming could trigger the next ice age and has possibly done so in the past.

I am unclear as to whether it is too late, but I would say one way to reverse this direction of global warming is to lower the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. This can be achieved cheaply by two measures.

One.

All the people who drive to work using an infernal combustion engine, just to sit in front of a computer and talk on a tellingbone should be encouraged to do so from home.

This will save billions of tons of fuel and carbon dioxide.

Two.

The Icelandic economy is in ruins and they only have a population of around 300,000.

But what Iceland does have in abundance, is lots of electricity, the plan is to use this abundance of electricity to smelt aluminium NO, use this abundant electricity, to shift water and electricity around the planet, use the water and power to grow plants, use the plants to feed the starving and most important of all 'suck the carbon dioxide out of the air'.

Hydrogen is beautifully simple, it lifts stuff, can make electricity and is 2/3's the components of water, because it takes two hydrogen atoms and one oxygen atom, to make one molecule of water.

One cubic mile of gaseous hydrogen contains enough hydrogen to create 744316795 million gallons of water, which is well over a thousand Olympic swimming pools of water.

Put the cubic mile of hydrogen in a vast mylar balloon, make the balloon, carry a hydrogen compressor, a tank to store the compressed hydrogen and a GPS system driven by a light and powerful computer such as a Nokia n900 and some fuel cell driven propellers.

So using Icelandic electricity create hydrogen and fill a vast mylar balloon with it, harness the balloon via cables, to dynamos on the ground, spin the dynamos on the ground to create more electricity, use the extra electricity to create even more hydrogen.

Once the square mile of mylar is filled with hydrogen, set it loose and as it arises - admire its gracefulness, as it heads for the jet stream.

Once the balloon is nearing the point of balance in the jet stream required, ie rises no higher, the hydrogen in the MB (mylar balloon) starts to be compressed into the tank the MB is carrying slung beneath it.

This will control the MB's height in the atmosphere, in just the same way as a submarine controls its depth in the water.

The trick is, using the energy achieved by separating hydrogen from oxygen, literally using the energy in hydrogen to fly the whole kit and kaboodle to where ever water is required, the middle of Australia for instance.

We can put clean water and electricity anywhere on our planet, with the electricity being cheaply created in Iceland, where ever we need water on the planet, just take the hydrogen 'coz the oxygen is already there, the oxygen created when the hydrogen is seperated in Iceland, will reunite with the oxygen, when it arrives in the Sahara.

Please grow palm oil nuts in the middle of Australia and stop chopping down jungle in Indonesia and depriving Orangutans of their homes.

The growing palm oil nuts will suck carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere and buy us time.

I heard one idiot on radio 4, say that water is precious, I presume this ignoramus has never been to sea, our wonderful planet has an abundance of water, the trick is to get it to the right place.
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Re: Water and electricity gotten cheaply to anywhere

Post by Geoff Chandler » Sat Nov 13, 2010 10:15 am

Hi Peter,

The whole planet is going to hell in a hand basket and it's far too late
to anything about it. Best to sit back, enjoy yourself and stop worrying.

Your idea about growing palm oil nuts in the middle of Australia is
a non-starter as there is no money in palm oil nuts.

And this bit:

"...the irony being, global warming could trigger the next ice age and
has possibly done so in the past."

Global warming did trigger the last ice ages and this happened without
30 odd million car owners pumping gases into the atmosphere. It's inevitable.

Just think for one minute what Earth would be like without any humans.
It would be paradise. An unblemised absolute total paradise.

We are mistakes of nature, freaks.

(no wonder God has not shown his face for a few thousand years.
I would not want to take the credit for creating us lot either.)

Nature will kick in an ice age, erupt a volcano or two, create a
handful of massive earthquakes then hit us with an asteroid
and produce some incurable virus to clean up the human survivors.

Then we will all be gone. It will be nature's way of cleansing herself
of the human bacteria that is infesting her planet.

So just live for today, have fun and don't worry so much.
We will all be a long time dead.

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Re: Water and electricity gotten cheaply to anywhere

Post by Frank Kamau » Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:00 pm

As Homer Simpson would say "Water water everywhere, so let's all have a drink!".
Taking chess in the Midlands a level up!

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Re: Water and electricity gotten cheaply to anywhere

Post by PeterTurland » Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:27 pm

Frank Kamau wrote:As Homer Simpson would say "Water water everywhere, so let's all have a drink!".
Cheers !

At least you are sparing me your patronizing cynicism.

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