English Chess Forum

David Pardoe wrote:Alan, I appreciate what you are saying regarding meetings, and they are often under severe time pressure to get through the business.
However, individual members should be able to raise motions at these meetings, independantly of clubs.
Sometimes a person may wish to raise a motion that his club might not be interested in, but might nevertheless benefit the league. I was on a number of committees and an active organiser, so things were occuring to me that I felt were worth raising.
Also, the process of taking things through clubs, committees, AGMs, etc.. can be tedius and long winded, by which time people can loose interest. I`ve known these things go on for years and get no-where. I`d gone dirctly to the league secretary, who asked me to draft the motions, which I did. Somehow they got mixed up and the wording became jumbled and some motions ended up mis drafted.
There is also an attidute problem with some chess bodies. Its a case of `who do these plebs think they are, and what do they know about chess. These ordinary members should get back into there boxes and concentrate on paying there subs....should be seen and not heard.. What a pig ignorant attitude.
I was helping drive change through the MCF council, and pressing the MCCU to get there finger out and sort a few things out. Unfortunately others seemed more interested in simply shoving a spanner in the works.
As for the notion that I dont communicate...I was one of the most prolific communicators in northern chess, and recieved a good deal of thanks from various people for keeping them informed.
Yes, process and procedure can be a tricky hurdle, and oversights can occur.
As for Micks comment that I didnt discuss things with the county captains. For most of the time I was the county captains.

A busy mother makes slothful daughters.

Paul Douglass wrote: Have you ever been introduced to a spell checker? They're useful functions you know! Just a lot of irrelevant cant (yes cant) with no real purpose.

IanDavis wrote:Carl, can you ring the school bell please?

IanDavis wrote:If you don't like reading what somebody says, then why don't you censor them? If you really must persist in pulling people up on their standard of written English, at least learn to distinguish between its and it's. Otherwise you just look like a petty and childish fool. It's almost as bad as describing somebody as analphabet, due to the quality of their typed English.

Carl, can you ring the school bell please?

David Gilbert wrote:
In the 1960s I wrote to a big football club - won’t say which one - asking if I could play for them and could they send me some free tickets. They replied in just two words “YOU CANT”. But obviously they didn’t have spell checkers in those days.

Bobjones wrote:Quote? I think you mean apostrophe. And again you've missed one in its.

Paul Douglass wrote:

Bobjones wrote:Quote? I think you mean apostrophe. And again you've missed one in its.

That's a fair point but I simply refer to it as quote (single quote ' or double quote ").

IM Jack Rudd wrote:

Paul Douglass wrote:

Bobjones wrote:Quote? I think you mean apostrophe. And again you've missed one in its.

That's a fair point but I simply refer to it as quote (single quote ' or double quote ").

Except that an apostrophe and a single-quote are two entirely different punctuation marks that happen to look the same. You'll cause unnecessary confusion by referring to one as if it were the other.

Martyn Jacobs wrote:One example - I have been using logic for my whole life - I have always looked at things deeply and cognitively - but sometimes, after explaining an idea to some whippersnapper who has just completed a month's course in logic, they start quoting logical fallacies which they've just learned!!
They think they know everything, just because they have completed one course!!