The English Language

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John McKenna

Re: The English Language

Post by John McKenna » Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:42 am

Some regalia is worn on the person while some may be carried/held.

E.g. on ceremonial occasions the British monarch wears the crown of state and holds an orb in one hand, a sceptre in the other.

Google 'Royal Regalia' for more examples.

A town mayor also has regalia - a chain of office, &c. but is a commoner in the hierarchical scheme of things.

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Re: The English Language

Post by soheil_hooshdaran » Thu Sep 14, 2017 2:08 pm

John McKenna wrote:
A town mayor also has regalia - a chain of office, &c. but is a commoner in the hierarchical scheme of things.
Huh?! His regalia just means a chain of offices?

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Re: The English Language

Post by Roger de Coverly » Thu Sep 14, 2017 2:48 pm

soheil_hooshdaran wrote: Huh?! His regalia just means a chain of offices?
In that context, a "chain of office" is a large necklace.

http://www.whdarby.co.uk/chains-of-office/

John McKenna

Re: The English Language

Post by John McKenna » Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:45 am

Not sure who's yanking whose chain, above.

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Re: The English Language

Post by soheil_hooshdaran » Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:21 pm

What's the difference between 'solemnity' and 'seriousness'?'?

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Re: The English Language

Post by MartinCarpenter » Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:47 pm

Maybe that Solemn has some contetations of sadness, or at least regret, attached as well?

John McKenna

Re: The English Language

Post by John McKenna » Sat Sep 16, 2017 12:02 am

Solemnity shares with seriousness the complete absence of all levity, hilarity and frivolity.

However, solemnity is often marked by silence, and you can be serious without being solemn - as was demonstrated by the young John McEnroe - but YOU CANNOT BE solemn without being SERIOUS.

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Re: The English Language

Post by soheil_hooshdaran » Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:33 pm

What's the subject of the underllined?
Along the entire Northwest Coast, slaves and copper sheets (‘‘coppers,’’ Tlingit tinna) were the most valuable, their symbolism similar but not identical to that of other ritual prestations.

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Re: The English Language

Post by MartinCarpenter » Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:24 am

Hadn't ever seen prestation as a word before, but the oracles insist it is one :) (~=payment)

Ok, there's a set of things that people are exchanging in some sort of ritual manner. The subject of the underlined are the slaves/copper sheets being exchanged. They're being compared to everything else that was exchanged at times.

John McKenna

Re: The English Language

Post by John McKenna » Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:27 am

'Prestation' seems to be rarely used in English - it is French and means payment to a feudal superior.

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Re: The English Language

Post by Alistair Campbell » Wed Sep 20, 2017 6:17 pm

soheil_hooshdaran wrote:What's the difference between 'solemnity' and 'seriousness'?'?
I would have said (off the top of my head) that solemnity implied seriousness (but not the other way round). So one could laugh at a matter, but still be treating it seriously.

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Re: The English Language

Post by Alistair Campbell » Wed Sep 20, 2017 6:19 pm

John McKenna wrote: it is French and means payment to a feudal superior.
I've never heard the word prestation before (and the spell-checker doesn't like it). Is it like some sort of ECF membership?

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Re: The English Language

Post by soheil_hooshdaran » Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:20 pm

Oops...I thought it was a misspelling of presentation

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Re: The English Language

Post by Alex Holowczak » Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:27 pm

Alistair Campbell wrote:
John McKenna wrote: it is French and means payment to a feudal superior.
I've never heard the word prestation before (and the spell-checker doesn't like it). Is it like some sort of ECF membership?
No, it's a town in North Wales near Rhyl. :P

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Re: The English Language

Post by MartinCarpenter » Wed Sep 20, 2017 10:01 pm

soheil_hooshdaran wrote:Oops...I thought it was a misspelling of presentation
So did I! Google enlightened me.