Re: Event
Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 3:18 pm
Can a lecture also be considered an event?
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Sorry to hear that my posts are irritating. I never meant to irritate anyone.Michael Farthing wrote:There are some in this and other threads that are clearly irritated by your questions and are making unkind comments. I am not one of them and think it quite reasonable for you to ask for help on a chess forum about translating sentences from chess books. However, it would help if you would be clearer about you questions.soheil_hooshdaran wrote:Really?Michael Farthing wrote:In this position the bishop would be more powerful than the rook.
When you ask "Really?" do you mean:
"Surely the bishop is not more powerful than the rook"
or "Does powerful really mean the same as superiority"
or something else?
I wasn't able to open the attachment so my comment was simply an attempt to express the author's sentence in a different way, not a comment on the actual position. Whenever we try to use different words to say the same thing the meaning is going to change slightly. What I was seeking to do was to give you a feel for the ideas the author was trying to express.
OK Andrew this has gone on long enoughIt's great that IM Martin is on this forum. He can make quite helpful remarks
soheil_hooshdaran wrote: After 1...Nxe5 2.Rxe5 Bd6 or 2...Bf6 , the White Rook would have to retreat and, the Black Bishop Would enjoy his superiority.
Sounds like more empty verbiage from some half-witted annotator. A conscientious annotator would give some sample variations to demonstrate why the bishop on d6 is better placed than the one on f2. I don't see anything concrete and with decent play by both sides the game will probably peter out in a draw.Roger de Coverly wrote:In the context of the position, it means that the Bishop on d6 is better placed than the Bishop on f2. I wouldn't share the author's optimism that this gives Black much of an advantage.
Arshad Ali wrote: I don't see anything concrete and with decent play by both sides the game will probably peter out in a draw.
Fair enough -- but that's what the annotator should be saying explicitly.IM Jack Rudd wrote:OK, here's something more concrete: after 2...Rd6 3.Re2 (chosen to give white the opportunity of doubling rooks on the file easily) Qc7, black's extracting a mini-concession: 3.Be3 allows black to get a rook to e4, 3.Bg3 means white always has to worry about ...g5, and 3.g3 slightly weakens the kingside. It's still probably not enough to win, but it's the sort of position where black can probe and white will find it hard to keep everything under control.
I would have thought just g3. I think White will be mostly out of danger once the Rooks are off, as the "bad" Bishop along with the pawns will retain control over dark squares and the Queen and King can hold the White squares, or those within the pawn envelope anyway. You wouldn't want to try to defend that type of position if you can avoid it with a Knight on the board, but that's being exchanged.IM Jack Rudd wrote: It's still probably not enough to win, but it's the sort of position where black can probe and white will find it hard to keep everything under control.
It's the kind of position Informant would give as =/+: Black has a minute edge, can probe a little bit, but as long as White doesn't go astray, an amicable draw should be the result.Roger de Coverly wrote:I would have thought just g3. I think White will be mostly out of danger once the Rooks are off, as the "bad" Bishop along with the pawns will retain control over dark squares and the Queen and King can hold the White squares, or those within the pawn envelope anyway. You wouldn't want to try to defend that type of position if you can avoid it with a Knight on the board, but that's being exchanged.IM Jack Rudd wrote: It's still probably not enough to win, but it's the sort of position where black can probe and white will find it hard to keep everything under control.
True. That's why as black I wouldn't be in a hurry to swap the rooks off. White can put some rooks on the e-file if he likes, and I'll stare at them and work towards ...b5-b4.Roger de Coverly wrote:I would have thought just g3. I think White will be mostly out of danger once the Rooks are off, as the "bad" Bishop along with the pawns will retain control over dark squares and the Queen and King can hold the White squares, or those within the pawn envelope anyway. You wouldn't want to try to defend that type of position if you can avoid it with a Knight on the board, but that's being exchanged.IM Jack Rudd wrote: It's still probably not enough to win, but it's the sort of position where black can probe and white will find it hard to keep everything under control.