EU referendum aftermath

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Re: EU referendum aftermath

Post by MartinCarpenter » Mon Aug 08, 2016 12:57 pm

Sigh. Maybe there's an important point of principle there somewhere. Ah, no, of course. If losing means returning all those 25 pound fees then you can see why they'd appeal.....
(It really was a bit silly that the rules didn't require at least 1 year of membership before voting in the first place (they apparently do for councillors!), but they didn't.).

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Re: EU referendum aftermath

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Fri Aug 12, 2016 3:24 pm

The appeal was won by Labour, so they won't have to return the £25 fees:

Labour leadership: Party wins appeal against voting rules

"[The Labour Party] said its ruling NEC, not courts, was the "ultimate arbiter" of the rules. The Court of Appeal upheld the challenge."

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Re: EU referendum aftermath

Post by Mick Norris » Fri Aug 12, 2016 4:12 pm

That's good news, but reinforces yet again the need for clear procedures to be put in place for future elections

I assume Corbyn will win anyway, but at least it should be a decent contest now
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Re: EU referendum aftermath

Post by MartinCarpenter » Fri Aug 12, 2016 5:00 pm

Definitely glad this bit of nonsense is over anyway, and the court cases all losing. Bringing the courts into this sort of thing is a terrible idea, but I don't think people are thinking remotely straight.

It'll be interesting to see where the voting ends up.

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Re: EU referendum aftermath

Post by NickFaulks » Fri Aug 12, 2016 5:04 pm

I generally think it better not to comment on other people's political parties, but must say I am puzzled that rationing votes by price has become a Socialist principle.

Betfair still makes Corbyn 5/1 on favourite.
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Re: EU referendum aftermath

Post by MartinCarpenter » Fri Aug 12, 2016 8:20 pm

Honestly, I think they just needed the money (they do) and reckoned they'd get a good number of people to stump it up. At this rate they'll be tempted to run an annual contest as a fund raiser ;)

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Re: EU referendum aftermath

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Fri Aug 12, 2016 10:02 pm

Don't even joke about it :)
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Re: EU referendum aftermath

Post by Mick Norris » Sat Aug 13, 2016 9:07 am

MartinCarpenter wrote:Honestly, I think they just needed the money (they do) and reckoned they'd get a good number of people to stump it up. At this rate they'll be tempted to run an annual contest as a fund raiser ;)
Not if they have to spend the money on legal fees :roll:
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Re: EU referendum aftermath

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Wed Aug 24, 2016 6:36 pm

Since a thread was started recently about Corbyn and traingate, I thought I'd resurrect this thread to rant about this:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37177938

"Nigel Farage to speak at Donald Trump rally"

:shock: :evil: :cry:

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Re: EU referendum aftermath

Post by John Moore » Wed Aug 24, 2016 6:40 pm

I don't understand the connection, Chris. What am I missing.

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Re: EU referendum aftermath

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Wed Aug 24, 2016 6:42 pm

No connection, just politics. Seeing one reminded me of the other.

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Re: EU referendum aftermath

Post by John Moore » Wed Aug 24, 2016 6:44 pm

No probs. Good to rant about that - makes all our problems look trivial and perhaps they are, anyway.

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Re: EU referendum aftermath

Post by MartinCarpenter » Wed Aug 24, 2016 8:22 pm

Not trivial I think, but we'll survive them medium term.

The thing with Trump is I think just how hard it is to understand. Having gone to a Quaker school I do try quite hard to understand even mad seeming things. I can see why we ended up voting for Brexit, and more easily that there is some real attraction to Corbyn.

Millions preparing to vote Trump though? Really not sure I even want to try and understand that.

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Re: EU referendum aftermath

Post by NickFaulks » Wed Aug 24, 2016 10:23 pm

MartinCarpenter wrote: Millions preparing to vote Trump though? Really not sure I even want to try and understand that.
Trump's selling point is that he isn't owned by anyone - hence the rather silly efforts to claim that he is working for the Russians. Add that to the deep and widespread loathing for Mrs Clinton and you get a lot of votes.
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Re: EU referendum aftermath

Post by IM Jack Rudd » Wed Aug 24, 2016 11:20 pm

NickFaulks wrote:
MartinCarpenter wrote: Millions preparing to vote Trump though? Really not sure I even want to try and understand that.
Trump's selling point is that he isn't owned by anyone - hence the rather silly efforts to claim that he is working for the Russians. Add that to the deep and widespread loathing for Mrs Clinton and you get a lot of votes.
He's certainly bringing a lot of states unexpectedly into play on current polling. Arizona, Georgia, South Carolina...

Oh, wait.