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Maybe we could have a vote on whether we want to live in a country like this

What fun. Does also show mind boggling levels of geographical ignorance!

The legal position seems as if it could get horribly messy - there's people saying than only parliament can actually legally trigger article 50, and that could be very difficult to manage.

Something else that I fear wasn't remotely well thought through

The process won't be rushed, at least. Time to draw breath, hopefully:

EU leaders reject informal talks with UK

MartinCarpenter wrote: there's people saying than only parliament can actually legally trigger article 50

That is technically true, and has always been known, but I don't think that many MPs could vote to ignore the result of the referendum and expect to survive the General Election that would inevitably follow.

I'd actually always assumed the referendum act gave it some kind of binding power. That was definitely how everyone seemed to be acting.

Have to be very careful about a putative general election. It was such a thin majority and first past the post does very odd things to electoral calculations! Aren't many of the areas that went Brexit basically one party states for Westminster purposes?
(Which is of course part of why they're so poor/neglected.).

Mind you, some sort of long, drawn out, zombie state would be rather worse than leaving the EU.

MartinCarpenter wrote:I'd actually always assumed the referendum act gave it some kind of binding power. That was definitely how everyone seemed to be acting.

A Parliament cannot bind its successors (nor, indeed, even itself). Even if an Act were passed making the referendum binding that Act could be repealed.

How many days will we have continuous rolling live coverage of this? Not objecting to it, just wondering when the last time was that something dominated the news like this for days?

When it's sorted. So dig in. It's basically going to be politics for the next 5+ years. One of the more damaging side effects to be honest.

Mind you, some sort of long, drawn out, zombie state would be rather worse than leaving the EU.

Well, Belgium seems to have managed OK for as long as anyone can remember.

Mike Truran wrote:

Mind you, some sort of long, drawn out, zombie state would be rather worse than leaving the EU.

Well, Belgium seems to have managed OK for as long as anyone can remember.

They've actually got one now, but there's no evidence that they're the better for it.

Coping without a government is one thing. Coping with continuous uncertainty if we're in/out and the precise terms etc, would I think be rather worse.

I think you're worrying too much. Politicians play their games and for the rest of us, life goes on. Whatever Cameron may have said, we're not all going to get conscripted into WW3.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36647458

The motion of no confidence in Jeremy Corbyn passed 176-44.
Surely his position is untenable now.

Christopher Kreuzer wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36647458

The motion of no confidence in Jeremy Corbyn passed 176-44.
Surely his position is untenable now.

Not at all, we have to respect the result of the EU Referendum (52-48), but we have to ignore the views of the elected MP for my constituency, and all his colleagues in the 176

Jeremy doesn't listen to people he disagrees with

Mick Norris wrote: Jeremy doesn't listen to people he disagrees with

I don't doubt that, but if party members keep voting him back and don't want anyone else, what is he supposed to do?