County Matches 2010-11 Season

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Re: County Matches 2010-11 Season

Post by Alex Holowczak » Mon Feb 14, 2011 4:42 pm

IM Jack Rudd wrote:
Alex Holowczak wrote:
David Pardoe wrote: And West Yorkshire is a county
I'm sorry, but no it isn't. Greater Manchester isn't a county, and West Yorkshire holds exactly the same administrative status as GM. Specifically, that of a metropolitan county, not a ceremonial county (which is what we historically know as a county).
Except that the County Championship doesn't specify whether the counties in question need to be metropolitan counties or ceremonial counties. (Or, in some cases, neither: "Cheshire and North Wales" is the one I'm thinking of.)
Well, yes. They don't need to be affiliated to the ECF as a County Association either, as the MCF are a Constituent Unit.

I still think we should be keeping to the traditional counties for county chess. Everyone apart from the NCCU does. I learnt this weekend that the last time this came up in the Birmingham area, there was an overwhelming majority in favour of keeping the status quo.

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Re: County Matches 2010-11 Season

Post by IM Jack Rudd » Mon Feb 14, 2011 4:54 pm

Alex Holowczak wrote: I still think we should be keeping to the traditional counties for county chess. Everyone apart from the NCCU does.
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Which union do Greater Manchester belong to again?

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Re: County Matches 2010-11 Season

Post by Alex Holowczak » Mon Feb 14, 2011 5:50 pm

IM Jack Rudd wrote:
Alex Holowczak wrote: I still think we should be keeping to the traditional counties for county chess. Everyone apart from the NCCU does.
Which union do Greater Manchester belong to again?
I neglected my duty to put a suitable caveat for GM in. :(

I guess GM are NCCU-in-exile; that was where they originally wanted to be...

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Re: County Matches 2010-11 Season

Post by raycollett » Mon Feb 14, 2011 11:41 pm

It has now been confirmed by the Controller that Notts have withdrawn from the open team competition. Staffs are the MCCU Open Team Champions 2011 with Warks second having been beaten decisively by David Anderton's team. See http://www.mccu.org.uk/cm10-11/open/open.htm.

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Re: County Matches 2010-11 Season

Post by Sean Hewitt » Tue Feb 15, 2011 8:31 am

raycollett wrote:It has now been confirmed by the Controller that Notts have withdrawn from the open team competition.
Hold the front page :lol:

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Re: County Matches 2010-11 Season

Post by LozCooper » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:23 pm

Mick Norris wrote:
Nether Warks nor Staffs are that strong on the bottom 4 boards
We regularly have 160+ players acting as reserves so I certainly wouldn't agree with that assessment :x

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Re: County Matches 2010-11 Season

Post by Ian Kingston » Sun Feb 27, 2011 11:47 am

Nottinghamshire won the MCCU U180 title yesterday, defeating Warwickshire 10.5-5.5. Neither side was remotely close to full strength (over half of the players on both sides came from the U160 pool), possibly reflecting the fact that so little was at stake since both teams automatically qualify for the national stages.

The U140 match between Nottinghamshire and Staffordshire was defaulted by the latter.

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Re: County Matches 2010-11 Season

Post by raycollett » Sun Feb 27, 2011 11:57 am

I still think we should be keeping to the traditional counties for county chess.
East Sussex and West Sussex?

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Re: County Matches 2010-11 Season

Post by raycollett » Sun Feb 27, 2011 12:23 pm

Nottinghamshire won the MCCU U180 title yesterday
Ian, Any details for the MCCU website please? Thanks - Ray

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Re: County Matches 2010-11 Season

Post by Ian Kingston » Sun Feb 27, 2011 8:19 pm

raycollett wrote:
Nottinghamshire won the MCCU U180 title yesterday
Ian, Any details for the MCCU website please? Thanks - Ray
Sorry - I'm not the captain. If you don't hear anything soon let me know and I'll give him a prod.

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Re: County Matches 2010-11 Season

Post by Alex Holowczak » Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:24 pm

Having read the tie-break rules carefully (rule 14/15 would be much better as a list, rather than words), I think Worcestershire are MCCU U140 Champions! :D

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Re: County Matches 2010-11 Season

Post by raycollett » Sun Feb 27, 2011 11:34 pm

raycollett wrote:Nottinghamshire won the MCCU U180 title yesterday
I have now received a scanned scoresheet from the controller and have pasted details to the website at:
http://www.mccu.org.uk/cm10-11/u180/u18 ... 6feb11.htm

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Re: County Matches 2010-11 Season

Post by David Pardoe » Sun Mar 06, 2011 1:49 pm

Any news on the U160 clash between Warks & Leicestershire yesterday......
Warks are already Champs, and Leicestershire are battling back after a slow start...
Where`s that Sean geezzer when you need him....
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Re: County Matches 2010-11 Season

Post by Sean Hewitt » Sun Mar 06, 2011 2:36 pm

David Pardoe wrote:Any news on the U160 clash between Warks & Leicestershire yesterday......
Warks are already Champs, and Leicestershire are battling back after a slow start...
Where`s that Sean geezzer when you need him....
Warwickshire won 8.5-7.5 :-(

I didn't play myself but I hear that Leics were 2 up with 4 to play, only to lose by the narrowest margin.

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Re: County Matches 2010-11 Season

Post by Alex Holowczak » Sun Mar 06, 2011 2:36 pm

David Pardoe wrote:Any news on the U160 clash between Warks & Leicestershire yesterday......
Warks are already Champs, and Leicestershire are battling back after a slow start...
Where`s that Sean geezzer when you need him....
David, Greater Manchester have already been eliminated from the Under 160 section, despite being in 2nd place at the moment.

Even if Leicestershire lost or drew yesterday, Nottinghamshire have 3 pts, Staffordshire have 2 pts and GM have 3 pts. The final match is Notts v Staffs. So, the three scenarios:
Notts win v Staffs, Notts 5, GM 3, Staffs 2 - Notts qualify with Warks
Notts draw v Staffs, Notts 4, Staffs 3, GM 3 - Notts qualify with Warks
Notts lose v Staffs, Staffs 4, Notts 3, GM 3 - Staffs qualify with Warks

So whatever happens, GM will not qualify for the National Stages of the Under 160.

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