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IM Jack Rudd wrote:

Alex Holowczak wrote:

David Pardoe wrote: And West Yorkshire is a county

I'm sorry, but no it isn't. Greater Manchester isn't a county, and West Yorkshire holds exactly the same administrative status as GM. Specifically, that of a metropolitan county, not a ceremonial county (which is what we historically know as a county).

Except that the County Championship doesn't specify whether the counties in question need to be metropolitan counties or ceremonial counties. (Or, in some cases, neither: "Cheshire and North Wales" is the one I'm thinking of.)

Well, yes. They don't need to be affiliated to the ECF as a County Association either, as the MCF are a Constituent Unit.

I still think we should be keeping to the traditional counties for county chess. Everyone apart from the NCCU does. I learnt this weekend that the last time this came up in the Birmingham area, there was an overwhelming majority in favour of keeping the status quo.

Alex Holowczak wrote: I still think we should be keeping to the traditional counties for county chess. Everyone apart from the NCCU does.

Which union do Greater Manchester belong to again?

IM Jack Rudd wrote:

Alex Holowczak wrote: I still think we should be keeping to the traditional counties for county chess. Everyone apart from the NCCU does.

Which union do Greater Manchester belong to again?

I neglected my duty to put a suitable caveat for GM in.

I guess GM are NCCU-in-exile; that was where they originally wanted to be...

It has now been confirmed by the Controller that Notts have withdrawn from the open team competition. Staffs are the MCCU Open Team Champions 2011 with Warks second having been beaten decisively by David Anderton's team. See http://www.mccu.org.uk/cm10-11/open/open.htm.

raycollett wrote:It has now been confirmed by the Controller that Notts have withdrawn from the open team competition.

Hold the front page

Mick Norris wrote:
Nether Warks nor Staffs are that strong on the bottom 4 boards

We regularly have 160+ players acting as reserves so I certainly wouldn't agree with that assessment

Nottinghamshire won the MCCU U180 title yesterday, defeating Warwickshire 10.5-5.5. Neither side was remotely close to full strength (over half of the players on both sides came from the U160 pool), possibly reflecting the fact that so little was at stake since both teams automatically qualify for the national stages.

The U140 match between Nottinghamshire and Staffordshire was defaulted by the latter.

I still think we should be keeping to the traditional counties for county chess.

East Sussex and West Sussex?

Nottinghamshire won the MCCU U180 title yesterday

Ian, Any details for the MCCU website please? Thanks - Ray

raycollett wrote:

Nottinghamshire won the MCCU U180 title yesterday

Ian, Any details for the MCCU website please? Thanks - Ray

Sorry - I'm not the captain. If you don't hear anything soon let me know and I'll give him a prod.

Having read the tie-break rules carefully (rule 14/15 would be much better as a list, rather than words), I think Worcestershire are MCCU U140 Champions!

raycollett wrote:Nottinghamshire won the MCCU U180 title yesterday

I have now received a scanned scoresheet from the controller and have pasted details to the website at:
http://www.mccu.org.uk/cm10-11/u180/u18 ... 6feb11.htm

Any news on the U160 clash between Warks & Leicestershire yesterday......
Warks are already Champs, and Leicestershire are battling back after a slow start...
Where`s that Sean geezzer when you need him....

David Pardoe wrote:Any news on the U160 clash between Warks & Leicestershire yesterday......
Warks are already Champs, and Leicestershire are battling back after a slow start...
Where`s that Sean geezzer when you need him....

Warwickshire won 8.5-7.5

I didn't play myself but I hear that Leics were 2 up with 4 to play, only to lose by the narrowest margin.

David Pardoe wrote:Any news on the U160 clash between Warks & Leicestershire yesterday......
Warks are already Champs, and Leicestershire are battling back after a slow start...
Where`s that Sean geezzer when you need him....

David, Greater Manchester have already been eliminated from the Under 160 section, despite being in 2nd place at the moment.

Even if Leicestershire lost or drew yesterday, Nottinghamshire have 3 pts, Staffordshire have 2 pts and GM have 3 pts. The final match is Notts v Staffs. So, the three scenarios:
Notts win v Staffs, Notts 5, GM 3, Staffs 2 - Notts qualify with Warks
Notts draw v Staffs, Notts 4, Staffs 3, GM 3 - Notts qualify with Warks
Notts lose v Staffs, Staffs 4, Notts 3, GM 3 - Staffs qualify with Warks

So whatever happens, GM will not qualify for the National Stages of the Under 160.