County teams 2016-17

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Re: County teams 2016-17

Post by Alex Holowczak » Wed Sep 21, 2016 10:44 pm

Neil Graham wrote:
David Blower wrote:It is actually my target that we do get full teams out, and I think it is realistic.
Staffordshire Under 140 have withdrawn today.
Harumph. *deletes fixture from calendar*

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Re: County teams 2016-17

Post by Mick Norris » Thu Sep 22, 2016 8:22 am

Neil Graham wrote:
David Blower wrote:It is actually my target that we do get full teams out, and I think it is realistic.
Staffordshire Under 140 have withdrawn today.
MCCU website notes
Staffs withdraw from u140 team tournament
21 Sep, Peter Sherlock reports. Staffordshire have reluctantly concluded they have insufficient players to firld a u140 team this season.
Ok, much better than defaulting matches that have been arranged and venues paid for, but still a puzzle why they entered in the first place - having acquired a captain, I'd have thought a big county like Staffs could find enough players

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Re: County teams 2016-17

Post by LawrenceCooper » Thu Sep 22, 2016 9:32 am

Mick Norris wrote:
Neil Graham wrote:
David Blower wrote:It is actually my target that we do get full teams out, and I think it is realistic.
Staffordshire Under 140 have withdrawn today.
MCCU website notes
Staffs withdraw from u140 team tournament
21 Sep, Peter Sherlock reports. Staffordshire have reluctantly concluded they have insufficient players to firld a u140 team this season.
Ok, much better than defaulting matches that have been arranged and venues paid for, but still a puzzle why they entered in the first place - having acquired a captain, I'd have thought a big county like Staffs could find enough players

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A sad irony that we seem to have a team but no captain for some teams and a captain but no team for others :oops:

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Re: County teams 2016-17

Post by Mick Norris » Thu Sep 22, 2016 10:00 am

Well, the obvious solution would be to move the captain over to the team?
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Re: County teams 2016-17

Post by LawrenceCooper » Thu Sep 22, 2016 10:40 am

Mick Norris wrote:Well, the obvious solution would be to move the captain over to the team?
Simples :D

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Re: County teams 2016-17

Post by MartinCarpenter » Thu Sep 22, 2016 11:20 am

Not always quite so simple with grade limited teams of course :(

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Re: County teams 2016-17

Post by Dragoljub Sudar » Thu Sep 22, 2016 4:32 pm

How about a radical change to the rules to allow players from counties without a team in their grading section to play for an adjoining county?

This would allow, for example, MC level players in Derbyshire to play for Notts (or Yorks, Leics, Staffs)

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Re: County teams 2016-17

Post by MartinCarpenter » Thu Sep 22, 2016 4:41 pm

You do have to be subtly careful about that sort of thing - very logical in chess terms, but you can easily end up mislaying the thing that makes County chess worth doing.

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Re: County teams 2016-17

Post by John Hickman » Thu Sep 22, 2016 4:50 pm

MartinCarpenter wrote:You do have to be subtly careful about that sort of thing
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Re: County teams 2016-17

Post by MartinCarpenter » Thu Sep 22, 2016 4:57 pm

Well, yes :) Still, if you did this then it wouldn't quite be county chess any more would it? The 4NCL model might be objectively quite a bit better but its also something we already have one of!

The MCCU could actually (I believe) do it for the qualifying stages of the competition if you wanted, you'd just have to be sure that the places could still field a team if/when they qualified for the knock out stages.

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