The new Monthly grades are out

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Nick Grey
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Re: The new Monthly grades are out

Post by Nick Grey » Sat Sep 12, 2020 5:41 pm

Will give us years of fun .ECF is not the same as FIDE. Slow play not the same as rapid play. Or online. Snakes and Ladders is ok.
And all for the same price. Interesting if stays static for 42 measuring periods.

Dragoljub Sudar
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Re: The new Monthly grades are out

Post by Dragoljub Sudar » Sun Sep 13, 2020 12:41 am

Where no colour exists in the Games List for a player in the Grading Database, the Rating Database either assigns a colour randomly for weekend events or assigns white to all the home team players for league matches (I do like the feature which brings up the actual league results for the season when you click on the Event for the individual game result).
This means that the colour is wrong for many of my Notts League and Notts County Championship games.
Can the system be changed to leave the colour blank where not originally supplied, or does the system need to assign a colour?

Roger de Coverly
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Re: The new Monthly grades are out

Post by Roger de Coverly » Sun Sep 13, 2020 2:10 am

Dragoljub Sudar wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 12:41 am
Can the system be changed to leave the colour blank where not originally supplied, or does the system need to assign a colour?
It was a weakness in the specification back in the 1990s for collection of results for grading that it made the recording of white/black optional rather than mandatory. That may well be the case going forward as I don't think League Management Systems will collect it either if they are built from the notional grading requirement.

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MJMcCready
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Re: The new Monthly grades are out

Post by MJMcCready » Sun Sep 27, 2020 4:10 am

Gives will always be of secondary importance at most. Titles and the self belief to understand what is right in front of you is more than enough, more than enough by far. Some silly number that changes is pointless. But then I would say that for I am not a number, I am a free man.

Roger de Coverly
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Re: The new Monthly grades are out

Post by Roger de Coverly » Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:13 pm

By chance I found the ECF's calculation display. With so little OTB chess being played, there would only be a handful of players.

Here's an example
https://www.ecfrating.org.uk/v2/new/rob ... 9&domain=S

Nick Grey
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Re: The new Monthly grades are out

Post by Nick Grey » Sun Oct 04, 2020 8:07 pm

So your k's in the new system is a problem?

Roger de Coverly
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Re: The new Monthly grades are out

Post by Roger de Coverly » Sun Oct 04, 2020 8:15 pm

Nick Grey wrote:
Sun Oct 04, 2020 8:07 pm
So your k's in the new system is a problem?
I don't see why. The main point is that there's an audit report showing which results have been included and how the rating change has been calculated. Junior k is different to the FIDE version.

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