July 2020 grades

General discussions about grading.
LawrenceCooper
Posts: 5327
Joined: Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:13 am

Re: July 2020 grades

Post by LawrenceCooper » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:46 pm

J T Melsom wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:54 pm
The ECF doesn't normally say when the grades will be out though does it? They usually appear to coincide with the British Championships. I confidently expect they will be published before the next British Championships. And as there isn't any chess for which the gradings might be used, I'm sure there is very little to concern people.
Captains in the 4NCL Online League will have the option of using them.

IanCalvert
Posts: 231
Joined: Sun Jul 05, 2015 4:59 pm

Re: July 2020 grades

Post by IanCalvert » Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:20 pm

D'oh! July grades are out!

J T Melsom
Posts: 818
Joined: Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:12 pm

Re: July 2020 grades

Post by J T Melsom » Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:33 pm

As I feared - I was turning around my slump when the whole chess thing was called off...

Richard Bates
Posts: 3123
Joined: Fri Nov 14, 2008 8:27 pm

Re: July 2020 grades

Post by Richard Bates » Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:01 pm

Career best! Shame about the coronavirus.

User avatar
Christopher Kreuzer
Posts: 7525
Joined: Fri Aug 06, 2010 2:34 am
Location: London

Re: July 2020 grades

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:14 am

I have managed a career best as well! Though 175E means that it is only based on a few games - to be precise, 16 games over the past three seasons (+6 =3 -7). Helped immensely by a win in my last game this season, on 13 February 2020 the month before lockdown started!

I am wondering when I will get to play a game OTB with this career-best grade? :?
Things have changed so much, it is not clear if that will happen any time soon.

When is the switch to the new grades happening?

Andy McCulloch
Posts: 102
Joined: Wed Nov 05, 2008 8:57 pm

Re: July 2020 grades

Post by Andy McCulloch » Sat Jul 25, 2020 2:31 am

I have to disagree with Mr Thurlow,the results are not all in. My games from Blackpool, not that good but 50%, are not there. Blackpool does not appear to have submitted any results.

John Reyes
Posts: 461
Joined: Sun Aug 30, 2009 10:51 pm
Location: Manchester

Re: July 2020 grades

Post by John Reyes » Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:24 am

Andy McCulloch wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 2:31 am
I have to disagree with Mr Thurlow,the results are not all in. My games from Blackpool, not that good but 50%, are not there. Blackpool does not appear to have submitted any results.
I blamed the Blackpool organisers as they can’t used I forgot as a excused
Any postings on here represent my personal views only

Brian Valentine
Posts: 477
Joined: Fri Apr 03, 2009 1:30 pm

Re: July 2020 grades

Post by Brian Valentine » Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:16 am

There are always a few issues with the July list, that's why the August list is given greater weight. Corrections can be made.

It is particularly important this year since normally we get a dribble of corrections right through to December(usually things like players with duplicate codes). However we expect to turn off the Clarke system database after publishing the August list. The August list is widely used for league and congress qualification for up to a year. We need any errors and omissions reported to Matt Carr through normal channels ASAP to make that update reliable.

Brian Valentine
Manager of ECF rating

Kevin Thurlow
Posts: 3920
Joined: Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:28 pm

Re: July 2020 grades

Post by Kevin Thurlow » Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:39 am

"I have to disagree with Mr Thurlow"

Feel free - but I can't be held responsible for results getting lost somewhere!

Nicky Chorley
Posts: 167
Joined: Sun Mar 27, 2011 3:26 pm
Contact:

Re: July 2020 grades

Post by Nicky Chorley » Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:23 am

I'm up to a reasonable 74E. I felt like I was playing decent chess this season. Still aiming for 100.

Richard Bates
Posts: 3123
Joined: Fri Nov 14, 2008 8:27 pm

Re: July 2020 grades

Post by Richard Bates » Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:35 pm

Nicky Chorley wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:23 am
I'm up to a reasonable 74E. I felt like I was playing decent chess this season. Still aiming for 100.
I reckon you’ve got a high chance of that ;)*


*joke based on the methodology for the new rating list...

User avatar
Michael Farthing
Posts: 1961
Joined: Fri Apr 04, 2014 1:28 pm
Location: Morecambe, Europe

Re: July 2020 grades

Post by Michael Farthing » Sat Jul 25, 2020 1:05 pm

Nicky didn't say 100 or over: a pedant like me might argue he is aiming for exactly 100, in which case, of course, he stands no chance at all!

Nicky Chorley
Posts: 167
Joined: Sun Mar 27, 2011 3:26 pm
Contact:

Re: July 2020 grades

Post by Nicky Chorley » Sat Jul 25, 2020 3:06 pm

Quite! I'd like to be at least 100 really :).

User avatar
Christopher Kreuzer
Posts: 7525
Joined: Fri Aug 06, 2010 2:34 am
Location: London

Re: July 2020 grades

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:14 am

Brian says below that they: "expect to turn off the Clarke system database after publishing the August list".

The grading database has lots of historical data that I suspect lots of people would want to still access or at least download a copy of.

Is the intention to archive and/or keep the database online and still allow online access to the data?

If not, will people be able to request copies of the data pertaining to them? (Obviously you would expect people to take copies if they need it, but they do need some warning, and I have no idea how GDPR and data access requests relate to grading databases).
Brian Valentine wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:16 am
There are always a few issues with the July list, that's why the August list is given greater weight. Corrections can be made.

It is particularly important this year since normally we get a dribble of corrections right through to December(usually things like players with duplicate codes). However we expect to turn off the Clarke system database after publishing the August list. The August list is widely used for league and congress qualification for up to a year. We need any errors and omissions reported to Matt Carr through normal channels ASAP to make that update reliable.

Brian Valentine
Manager of ECF rating

Brian Valentine
Posts: 477
Joined: Fri Apr 03, 2009 1:30 pm

Re: July 2020 grades

Post by Brian Valentine » Sun Jul 26, 2020 2:06 pm

The current database will be turned off and the vast majority of the data will be transferred to the new system. For obvious reasons the new system will not be built to calculate Clarke grades. Hence the need to get the data right before the August update.

Post Reply