July 2020 grades

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Mick Norris
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Re: July 2020 grades

Post by Mick Norris » Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:55 pm

I think some clubs have already met OTB
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Re: July 2020 grades

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:19 pm

NickFaulks wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:52 pm
Matt Mackenzie wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:43 pm
Other countries (ones seriously affected by the virus) appear to be able to at least start OTB chess - why can't we?
Don't get me started on that!
Bureaucratic inertia does seem to be at least part of it here.
"Set up your attacks so that when the fire is out, it isn't out!" (H N Pillsbury)

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Re: July 2020 grades

Post by David Sedgwick » Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:45 pm

Neil Graham wrote: There are no congresses, no 4NCL, the local league is suspended indefinitely, the chess club isn't meeting. I don't anticipate any OTB chess till 2021 at the earliest and if there's a second wave of COVID-19 over the winter I can't envisage any OTB chess.
Mick Norris wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:55 pm
I think some clubs have already met OTB
Hastings & St Leonards Chess Club reopened on 4th July. Coulsdon Chess Fellowship are looking at restarting on 1st September.

Both those organisations have the enormous advantage of having their own premises. Their initial activities are likely to be confined to internal events.

However, I would expect both to submit some results for ECF grading before the end of the year.

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Re: July 2020 grades

Post by Tim Spanton » Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:22 am

David Sedgwick wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:45 pm
Neil Graham wrote: There are no congresses, no 4NCL, the local league is suspended indefinitely, the chess club isn't meeting. I don't anticipate any OTB chess till 2021 at the earliest and if there's a second wave of COVID-19 over the winter I can't envisage any OTB chess.
Mick Norris wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:55 pm
I think some clubs have already met OTB
Hastings & St Leonards Chess Club reopened on 4th July. Coulsdon Chess Fellowship are looking at restarting on 1st September.

Both those organisations have the enormous advantage of having their own premises. Their initial activities are likely to be confined to internal events.

However, I would expect both to submit some results for ECF grading before the end of the year.
I would have thought Coulsdon at least could run a tournament or two

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Re: July 2020 grades

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John Sellen
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Re: July 2020 grades

Post by John Sellen » Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:04 pm

Thanks Brendan
Hope you are well
This seems a thorough and well thought out risk assessment but makes pretty sober reading. Maybe it is just me but having to follow all these procedures in order to have a game of chess doesn't sound much fun at all. In addition in the case of most weekend congresses there is the risk of public transport and staying in a hotel.
Lets hope things improve next year and I look forward to seeing you on the circuit again

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Re: July 2020 grades

Post by Angus French » Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:21 pm

Brendan O'Gorman wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:21 pm
Coulsdon Risk Assessment https://www.ccfworld.com/Chess/CCF%20Ov ... esment.htm
That looks like an adapted version of the ECF *template*. Has an assessment actually been carried out? If yes, what was the outcome?

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Re: July 2020 grades

Post by Roger de Coverly » Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:31 pm

Angus French wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:21 pm
That looks like an adapted version of the ECF *template*. Has an assessment actually been carried out? If yes, what was the outcome?
All sorts of risks by touch are listed in the template. But if you were unfortunate enough to have someone infectious at a chess event, are plastic chess pieces and boards really an avenue for infection? Are metal buttons on some models of analogue clocks more dangerous than the plastic ones on others and on DGT digitals? Equipment locked away in a cupboard for six months would be clean.

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Re: July 2020 grades

Post by Kevin Thurlow » Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:07 pm

"That looks like an adapted version of the ECF *template*."

which is entirely sensible. Why do your own? CCF do have the option that there are two main doors, so they could implement a one-way system for people arriving and leaving as well.

1.5 reminded me of a visit to the Gents at work some years ago, where a colleague finished washing his hands and then got a paper towel from the dispenser so he could open the door to the corridor without touching it with his bare hands. Some of us scientists do that without a pandemic...

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Re: July 2020 grades

Post by Simon Rogers » Sun Aug 23, 2020 5:47 pm

Are we expecting a August update for grades this week?
Just wandering, as the Blackpool Chess Congress results have not been included in my grade. I only played about 6 long play games since the turn of the year and 4 of them were at Blackpool.
I had a very good Blackpool and just missed out on the prizes, so the results will have a big effect on my grade.
I've also had a few teammates asking me aswell.

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Re: July 2020 grades

Post by Reg Clucas » Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:47 pm

Simon Rogers wrote:
Sun Aug 23, 2020 5:47 pm
Are we expecting a August update for grades this week?
There is to be an August update, though when exactly I don't know.

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Michael Farthing
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Re: July 2020 grades

Post by Michael Farthing » Fri Aug 28, 2020 6:58 pm

The August upgrade has now been published

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Re: July 2020 grades

Post by Simon Rogers » Sat Aug 29, 2020 2:01 pm

Either late last night or this morning they have since been updated to include the Blackpool Chess Congress.
As a result, my grade has increased.

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Re: July 2020 grades

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