Grading timetable (June/July 2013)

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Roger de Coverly
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Re: Grading timetable (June/July 2013)

Post by Roger de Coverly » Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:46 am

Adam Raoof wrote: How can we persuade more events to become FIDE rated?

Is it really difficult to make the switch? The main issue appears to be time controls in Open sections, meaning that events might only be able to fit in two rounds in a day - but would that be such as problem?
Whether or not an event is FIDE rated is surely irrelevant to whether the arbiters are prepared to run the event using a pairing and results program.

Think of an event like Kidlington. That has three rounds on Saturday with a G/105 time limit. A G/120 limit could be theoretically possible, but means an earlier start and later finish. I doubt reducing to four rounds or playing on Friday evenings are really options. When e2e4 events take place locally, they have Friday evening rounds. The 35 minute drive on a Saturday or Sunday can take double that time in Friday rush hour traffic. Kidlington already uses computer pairings and has done so for some years.

By not having an event FIDE rated, organisers will also avoid the potentially onerous or expensive FIDE Regulations on Registration and Licensing of players.

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Re: Grading timetable (June/July 2013)

Post by James Byrne » Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:33 am

Does anyone know when the new grading list will be published? Can't remember if it's end of July or end of Aug, hopefully the former.

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Re: Grading timetable (June/July 2013)

Post by stevencarr » Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:20 am

Published.... now

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Re: Grading timetable (June/July 2013)

Post by Mick Norris » Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:26 am

James Byrne wrote:Does anyone know when the new grading list will be published? Can't remember if it's end of July or end of Aug, hopefully the former.
end July
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Re: Grading timetable (June/July 2013)

Post by stevencarr » Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:27 am

Mick Norris wrote:
James Byrne wrote:Does anyone know when the new grading list will be published? Can't remember if it's end of July or end of Aug, hopefully the former.
end July
In other words, 20 minutes ago.

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Re: Grading timetable (June/July 2013)

Post by Mick Norris » Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:30 am

http://www.englishchess.org.uk/grading/ ... -database/

still showing the June revision of the January list on my computer
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Re: Grading timetable (June/July 2013)

Post by stevencarr » Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:47 am

http://www.englishchess.org.uk/ecfgradi ... w/menu.php

Perhaps this is not officially linked in yet??

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Re: Grading timetable (June/July 2013)

Post by Phil Neatherway » Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:59 am

well my new grade is there. It says it is a preview dated 24/07/13.

http://www.englishchess.org.uk/grading/gradingdatabase/

a subtly different url from the one Mick posted above.

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Re: Grading timetable (June/July 2013)

Post by Mick Norris » Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:01 am

brilliant, can see that now
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Re: Grading timetable (June/July 2013)

Post by MartinCarpenter » Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:16 am

The redirect from the old ECF grading website isn't quite working, or the side button on the page it sends you to. The link from the bar at the top of the ECF website seems OK though. Not totally sure about the new look but the cross tables should be good fun and probably genuinely useful at times.

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Re: Grading timetable (June/July 2013)

Post by Roger de Coverly » Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:21 am


It's there all right. Some observations

There's a bug or at any rate a feature in the calculations for Juniors. At the London Classic I lost to a Mongolian Junior who is showing as E193 in the January list and E191 in the July list despite not playing any more English games or indeed having any removed.

Whilst it's nice to again see a whole season's league results in one place, it now makes it more difficult to audit a grade calculation since you don't know with certainty which results went into which season.

Juniors and new players are not showing the grade used in calculations. For juniors that may not be the published grade.

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Re: Grading timetable (June/July 2013)

Post by Mick Norris » Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:22 am

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Re: Grading timetable (June/July 2013)

Post by Mike Truran » Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:24 am

Nice user-friendly format. Well done to the ECF team.

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Re: Grading timetable (June/July 2013)

Post by Phil Neatherway » Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:44 am

Mike Truran wrote:Nice user-friendly format. Well done to the ECF team.
I agree. And many thanks also.

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Re: Grading timetable (June/July 2013)

Post by Matt Fletcher » Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:47 am

I like the new format - but not quite sure why my January grade has fallen (from 178 to 176)?

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