Isn't this the time ...

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Leonard Barden
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Re: Isn't this the time ...

Post by Leonard Barden » Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:39 pm

Surely the most (in)famous handshake refusal was long before that, in Karpov v Korchnoi at Baguio 1978 , with the sequel at Phillips & Drew several years later when they reclinched to applause from the audience.

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Re: Isn't this the time ...

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:24 am

The refusal in 1978 was Karpov's, in game 8, the first decisive game of the match. I have always thought that this contributed much to Korchnoi's poor play in that game, and not just because Keene said so (obviously).

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Re: Isn't this the time ...

Post by Kevin Thurlow » Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:57 am

"but then there are many things from the 70s I have forgotten."

Ah, you must have been there...

I was there at Philips and Drew, when Korchnoi arrived a few minutes late and walked straight over and spoke a few words to Karpov. They shook hands and we all wondered what was going on. It seems Korchnoi said something like, "Sorry I'm late, the lift got stuck".

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Re: Isn't this the time ...

Post by Gavin Hughes » Tue Jul 24, 2018 12:31 am

Tim Spanton wrote:
Fri Jul 20, 2018 4:13 pm
… when someone posts a message asking when the new grades will be out?
Isnt the best response.. you dont want to see them?

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Re: Isn't this the time ...

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:14 am

It is also the correct response. In the same way that the result of the Brexit referendum is fixed for all time, the grading list of 2017 should continue to apply in perpetuity. Definitely.

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Re: Isn't this the time ...

Post by Barry Sandercock » Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:46 am

Is it due out today ?

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Re: Isn't this the time ...

Post by NickFaulks » Tue Jul 24, 2018 11:18 am

Are we there yet?

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Re: Isn't this the time ...

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Tue Jul 24, 2018 5:56 pm

:idea: :!: :?: (no, not yet) 8) :mrgreen: :arrow: :shock:

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Re: Isn't this the time ...

Post by Alex Holowczak » Tue Jul 24, 2018 6:17 pm

I have spoken to Matthew Carr, who knows about these things.
Matthew Carr wrote:Jon Griffith broken down in France. Cant do anything until tomorrow.

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Re: Isn't this the time ...

Post by Richard Bates » Tue Jul 24, 2018 6:44 pm

Alex Holowczak wrote:
Tue Jul 24, 2018 6:17 pm
I have spoken to Matthew Carr, who knows about these things.
Matthew Carr wrote:Jon Griffith broken down in France. Cant do anything until tomorrow.
Wait, is this an inadvertent leak of the hidden story behind the demise of the Yorkshire grading list !?! The ECF nabbed him? ;)

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Re: Isn't this the time ...

Post by John Moore » Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:00 pm

Tomorrow! Hang on Tim.

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Re: Isn't this the time ...

Post by J T Melsom » Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:13 pm

Nothing to be done.

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Re: Isn't this the time ...

Post by Nick Grey » Tue Jul 24, 2018 11:22 pm

Shame about the delay. I need the info to enter a tournament on Saturday so I'm going back to the organiser to say my entry and his money is not going to be in his bank account until Thursday. I'm also going to inform him of RMT strike and revised timetables on Sat 28th.

Will it mean the August revision will be a bit later? A League meeting on Thurs 16th August in the evening amongst other chess admin duties we have in August & Early September.

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Re: Isn't this the time ...

Post by Richard Bates » Tue Jul 24, 2018 11:30 pm

Nick Grey wrote:
Tue Jul 24, 2018 11:22 pm
Shame about the delay. I need the info to enter a tournament on Saturday so I'm going back to the organiser to say my entry and his money is not going to be in his bank account until Thursday. I'm also going to inform him of RMT strike and revised timetables on Sat 28th.

Will it mean the August revision will be a bit later? A League meeting on Thurs 16th August in the evening amongst other chess admin duties we have in August & Early September.
It’s only a “delay” as a result of Brian’s earlier post! Surely Saturday’s tournament in Kingston will be using January’s grades anyway?

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Re: Isn't this the time ...

Post by Roger Lancaster » Wed Jul 25, 2018 12:37 pm

Alex Holowczak wrote:
Tue Jul 24, 2018 6:17 pm
I have spoken to Matthew Carr, who knows about these things.
Matthew Carr wrote:Jon Griffith broken down in France. Cant do anything until tomorrow.
There's a strong rumour that, post Brexit, ECF will arrange to repatriate its abacus, in which case delays of this type will be a thing of the past.

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