Andre Lilienthal (1911-2010)

John Saunders · Post by **John Saunders** » Sat May 08, 2010 3:42 pm

Natalia Pogonina has just 'tweeted' that the world's oldest GM Andre Lilienthal has died today*. I've not seen on other websites such as TWIC or ChessBase yet, but will seek confirmation. Someone has updated his Wikipedia entry with the date of death already. R.I.P.

The Hungarian source is here

http://hirzona.hu/2010/05/elhunyt-lilienthal-andor/

* I'm a bit suspicious of the date of death - it will need confirmation.

John Saunders · Post by **John Saunders** » Sat May 08, 2010 3:47 pm

The date of death looks suspect as the Hungarian report suggests "three days BEFORE his 99th birthday" (assuming Google has translated it correctly). Will need some confirmation.

John Moore · Post by **John Moore** » Sat May 08, 2010 4:02 pm

Strangely, Edward Winter's site had pictures of Lilienthal when I checked this morning - but, so far as I could see, no indication that he had passed away.

Ben Purton · Post by **Ben Purton** » Sat May 08, 2010 4:04 pm

I thought for most of my early teens that this guy had created the lowenthal sicillean , only to find out there was a guy called Lowenthal........

Very sad news.

John Moore · Post by **John Moore** » Sat May 08, 2010 4:06 pm

After the loss of Smyslov and Lilienthal, are there any strong players left who played before the Second World War.

Matt Mackenzie · Post by **Matt Mackenzie** » Sat May 08, 2010 4:10 pm

The last player alive who played all the pre war "Holy Trinity" (Lasker, Capablanca, Alekhine)

Effectively a whole era of chess has died with him

Amongst players still living, the nearest you will get I think is Pomar, who of course played AAA as a kid.

John Moore · Post by **John Moore** » Sat May 08, 2010 4:30 pm

Perhaps, also the best loooking chess player - see the Edward Winter pics.

John Moore · Post by **John Moore** » Sat May 08, 2010 4:37 pm

ChessBase now have an obit

James Pratt · Post by **James Pratt** » Sat May 08, 2010 4:38 pm

He had a girlfriend, enjoyed a cigarette, drove a sports car .. ! We owe it to his memory not just to revisit his win against Capa.

Gaige gives b. Moscow 5th May 1911. What a dreadful time in history!

David Sedgwick · Post by **David Sedgwick** » Sat May 08, 2010 10:35 pm

I had the pleasure of meeting Lilienthal at the Turin Olympiad in 2006. I spoke to him briefly about guess what........his win against Capablanca.

The conversation was conducted in French. Curiously, he spoke French much better than English.

Mick Norris · Post by **Mick Norris** » Sun May 09, 2010 9:05 am

More info here:

http://www.thechessmind.net/

http://www.chess.co.uk/twic/chessnews/o ... -1911-2010

David Sedgwick · Post by **David Sedgwick** » Sun May 09, 2010 9:18 am

David Sedgwick wrote:Curiously, he spoke French much better than English.

Mark Crowther on TWIC wrote:Later he moved on to Paris where on one occasion he defeated Alekhine in a blitz match.

Mystery solved.

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