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Andre Lilienthal (1911-2010)

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 3:42 pm
by John Saunders
Natalia Pogonina has just 'tweeted' that the world's oldest GM Andre Lilienthal has died today*. I've not seen on other websites such as TWIC or ChessBase yet, but will seek confirmation. Someone has updated his Wikipedia entry with the date of death already. R.I.P.

The Hungarian source is here

http://hirzona.hu/2010/05/elhunyt-lilienthal-andor/

* I'm a bit suspicious of the date of death - it will need confirmation.

Re: Andre Lilienthal (1911-2010)

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 3:47 pm
by John Saunders
The date of death looks suspect as the Hungarian report suggests "three days BEFORE his 99th birthday" (assuming Google has translated it correctly). Will need some confirmation.

Re: Andre Lilienthal (1911-2010)

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 4:02 pm
by John Moore
Strangely, Edward Winter's site had pictures of Lilienthal when I checked this morning - but, so far as I could see, no indication that he had passed away.

Re: Andre Lilienthal (1911-2010)

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 4:04 pm
by Ben Purton
I thought for most of my early teens that this guy had created the lowenthal sicillean , only to find out there was a guy called Lowenthal........

Very sad news.

Re: Andre Lilienthal (1911-2010)

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 4:06 pm
by John Moore
After the loss of Smyslov and Lilienthal, are there any strong players left who played before the Second World War.

Re: Andre Lilienthal (1911-2010)

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 4:10 pm
by Matt Mackenzie
The last player alive who played all the pre war "Holy Trinity" (Lasker, Capablanca, Alekhine)

Effectively a whole era of chess has died with him :(

Amongst players still living, the nearest you will get I think is Pomar, who of course played AAA as a kid.

Re: Andre Lilienthal (1911-2010)

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 4:30 pm
by John Moore
Perhaps, also the best loooking chess player - see the Edward Winter pics.

Re: Andre Lilienthal (1911-2010)

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 4:37 pm
by John Moore
ChessBase now have an obit

Re: Andre Lilienthal (1911-2010)

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 4:38 pm
by James Pratt
He had a girlfriend, enjoyed a cigarette, drove a sports car .. ! We owe it to his memory not just to revisit his win against Capa.

Gaige gives b. Moscow 5th May 1911. What a dreadful time in history!

Re: Andre Lilienthal (1911-2010)

Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 10:35 pm
by David Sedgwick
I had the pleasure of meeting Lilienthal at the Turin Olympiad in 2006. I spoke to him briefly about guess what........his win against Capablanca.

The conversation was conducted in French. Curiously, he spoke French much better than English.

Re: Andre Lilienthal (1911-2010)

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 9:05 am
by Mick Norris

Re: Andre Lilienthal (1911-2010)

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 9:18 am
by David Sedgwick
David Sedgwick wrote:Curiously, he spoke French much better than English.
Mark Crowther on TWIC wrote:Later he moved on to Paris where on one occasion he defeated Alekhine in a blitz match.
Mystery solved.