World Senior Chess Championship 14 – 27 November 2022 Assisi – Umbria Italy

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Re: World Senior Chess Championship 14 – 27 November 2022 Assisi – Umbria Italy

Post by Graham Borrowdale » Fri Nov 25, 2022 1:48 pm

Kevin Thurlow wrote:
Fri Nov 25, 2022 1:25 pm
Older players sometimes have the advantage that they recognise a (type of) position they saw many years earlier and just know what to do. You can also confuse younger players with 1970's opening theory, which isn't on Chessbase.
Of course, but for every one of those there will be two more who bash out the latest theory in their pet line and we all know where that can lead... Older players will tend to fall down the rating list due to inconsistency or lack of motivation, but still be capable of playing at the higher level owing to their chess understanding - rating records results, not chess understanding (I am talking about amateur levels, not Keith et al).

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Re: World Senior Chess Championship 14 – 27 November 2022 Assisi – Umbria Italy

Post by David Sedgwick » Fri Nov 25, 2022 1:59 pm

NickFaulks wrote:
Fri Nov 25, 2022 11:44 am
Is there any group of players that is not systemically underrated? Maybe we should fix the system by just adding 100 to everyone.
Some years ago, my ECF grade was 166 (old money, of course).

Then there was a proposal to add 500 to everyone's grade, to eliminate or at least reduce the likelihood of negative grades.

I protested strongly.

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Re: World Senior Chess Championship 14 – 27 November 2022 Assisi – Umbria Italy

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Fri Nov 25, 2022 4:43 pm

Kevin Thurlow wrote:
Fri Nov 25, 2022 1:25 pm
Older players sometimes have the advantage that they recognise a (type of) position they saw many years earlier and just know what to do. You can also confuse younger players with 1970's opening theory, which isn't on Chessbase.
The really hardcore will try for early-mid 60s stuff (ie pre Informators)
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Re: World Senior Chess Championship 14 – 27 November 2022 Assisi – Umbria Italy

Post by Kevin Thurlow » Fri Nov 25, 2022 5:23 pm

"The really hardcore will try for early-mid 60s stuff (ie pre Informators)"

Well, yes - in the pursuit of graniteness, I have used 1.e4 c5, 2.Nf3 e6, 3.d4 cxd4, 4.Nxd4 Bc5, from 1857 (and presumably earlier). Paulsen anticipated Basman!

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Re: World Senior Chess Championship 14 – 27 November 2022 Assisi – Umbria Italy

Post by LawrenceCooper » Sat Nov 26, 2022 1:03 pm

Round 11 underway (an hour earlier than previous rounds).

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Re: World Senior Chess Championship 14 – 27 November 2022 Assisi – Umbria Italy

Post by Mick Norris » Sat Nov 26, 2022 4:57 pm

Kristiansen has lost, so if Nunn can win he gets gold
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Re: World Senior Chess Championship 14 – 27 November 2022 Assisi – Umbria Italy

Post by LawrenceCooper » Sat Nov 26, 2022 5:22 pm

Mick Norris wrote:
Sat Nov 26, 2022 4:57 pm
Kristiansen has lost, so if Nunn can win he gets gold
Now showing as 1-0 although I suspect the final moves are missing.

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Re: World Senior Chess Championship 14 – 27 November 2022 Assisi – Umbria Italy

Post by Leonard Barden » Sat Nov 26, 2022 5:23 pm

Congratulations, world 65+ champion John Nunn!

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Re: World Senior Chess Championship 14 – 27 November 2022 Assisi – Umbria Italy

Post by LawrenceCooper » Sat Nov 26, 2022 5:47 pm

Leonard Barden wrote:
Sat Nov 26, 2022 5:23 pm
Congratulations, world 65+ champion John Nunn!
Seconded. A very welcome turn of events from 2-3 hours in when i thought both the top two boards looked drawish.

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Re: World Senior Chess Championship 14 – 27 November 2022 Assisi – Umbria Italy

Post by Kevin Thurlow » Sat Nov 26, 2022 6:26 pm

John handled that ending really well, which I guess you would expect. Brilliant result - there will be dancing in the streets of Bude tonight.

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Re: World Senior Chess Championship 14 – 27 November 2022 Assisi – Umbria Italy

Post by Mick Norris » Sat Nov 26, 2022 6:59 pm

Kevin Thurlow wrote:
Sat Nov 26, 2022 6:26 pm
John handled that ending really well, which I guess you would expect. Brilliant result - there will be dancing in the streets of Bude tonight.
:lol:

Well done John
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Re: World Senior Chess Championship 14 – 27 November 2022 Assisi – Umbria Italy

Post by NickFaulks » Sun Nov 27, 2022 11:00 am

Mick Norris wrote:
Sat Nov 26, 2022 4:57 pm
Kristiansen has lost
Tragic game for him, needing only a draw for the title and losing a drawn opposite bishop ending. He had an impregnable position but it looks as though he tried to change it to something even more impregnable, which turned out to be lost.
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Re: World Senior Chess Championship 14 – 27 November 2022 Assisi – Umbria Italy

Post by Ian Thompson » Sun Nov 27, 2022 1:28 pm

Kevin Thurlow wrote:
Sat Nov 26, 2022 6:26 pm
John handled that ending really well, which I guess you would expect. Brilliant result - there will be dancing in the streets of Bude tonight.
Fame at last. I don't mean for John Nunn.

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Re: World Senior Chess Championship 14 – 27 November 2022 Assisi – Umbria Italy

Post by Mike Gunn » Sun Nov 27, 2022 1:36 pm

I wonder how long a reference to the English Chess Forum will survive on the ECF website? Anyway, congrats for your fame, even if shortlived, Kevin. It's also great to see an English World Champion, albeit of us elderly folk!

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Re: World Senior Chess Championship 14 – 27 November 2022 Assisi – Umbria Italy

Post by Roger de Coverly » Sun Nov 27, 2022 2:03 pm

Mike Gunn wrote:
Sun Nov 27, 2022 1:36 pm
I wonder how long a reference to the English Chess Forum will survive on the ECF website?
Material from the forum or direct links appears in orbituaries, in the ECF's monthly newsletter as well,