ERRORS IN PUBLISHED GAMES IN THE BRITISH SENIORS

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Ken Norman
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ERRORS IN PUBLISHED GAMES IN THE BRITISH SENIORS

Postby Ken Norman » Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:54 am

The PGN game scores for the British Seniors published on the British Championship website contain a number of attribution errors.

Having watched the round 2 games on the website I have noticed the following mistakes.

The game listed as Milnes v Parsonage is in fact De Coverly v Timson.

Willetts v Emerson is in fact Milnes v Parsonage

And I believe the score given as De Coverly v Timson is Willetts v Emerson.

There are also errors in Round 1.

The game between Rudy van Kemenade and Geoff James was a draw. Yet the game published on the website is a 36 move win for White.


Clearly there are probably a great many other mistakes in the database of British Seniors games. These errors obviously make this database worthless.

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Re: ERRORS IN PUBLISHED GAMES IN THE BRITISH SENIORS

Postby IM Jack Rudd » Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:22 am

Thanks, Ken. I've corrected the errors in the round 1 games' PGN file - van Kemenade-James and Shephard-McKerracher were the wrong way round.

The games in the round 2 PGN file in my DropBox are already the right way round; we got an early alert that the live boards were broadcasting the wrong games.

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Re: ERRORS IN PUBLISHED GAMES IN THE BRITISH SENIORS

Postby Roger de Coverly » Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:34 am

Ken Norman wrote:The game listed as Milnes v Parsonage is in fact De Coverly v Timson.


A game starting 1. f4 Nf6 2. Nf3 d5 3. e3 is rather more likely to be by Tony Milnes.

The games in the pgn file are correct as far as I am aware, certainly my game is. The live transmission was incorrectly labelled.

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Re: ERRORS IN PUBLISHED GAMES IN THE BRITISH SENIORS

Postby Ken Norman » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:06 am

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Ken Norman wrote:The game listed as Milnes v Parsonage is in fact De Coverly v Timson.


A game starting 1. f4 Nf6 2. Nf3 d5 3. e3 is rather more likely to be by Tony Milnes.

The games in the pgn file are correct as far as I am aware, certainly my game is. The live transmission was incorrectly labelled.

(35) De Coverly,R (2024) - Timson,P (2123) [B32]
British Senior Championship Aberystwyth, Wales (2.33), 27.07.2014
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 e5 5.Nb5 d6 6.N5c3 Be7 7.Bb5 a6 8.Ba4 Nf6 9.0–0 0–0 10.Bg5 Nxe4 11.Nxe4 Bxg5 12.Qxd6 Be7 13.Qxd8 Rxd8 14.Nbc3 Be6 15.Bxc6 bxc6 16.Rfd1 f5 17.Ng3 Kf7 18.Rxd8 Rxd8 19.Rd1 Rxd1+ 20.Nxd1 g6 21.b3 e4 22.Nc3 Bb4 23.Na4 Kf6 24.c3 Bd6 25.Kf1 Ke5 26.Ke2 f4 27.Nf1 g5 28.Nd2 g4 29.g3 Kf5 30.gxf4 Kxf4 31.Nb6 Bc5 32.Nbc4 h5 33.Na5 Bxf2 34.Nxe4 Bb6 0–1


Roger .

The above is your round 2 game?

The long game that was broadcast as De Coverly v Timson was in fact Milnes v Parsonage?

So it would appear that the names on the live games cannot be trusted.

I wonder if this problem also affects the British Championship.

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Re: ERRORS IN PUBLISHED GAMES IN THE BRITISH SENIORS

Postby Roger de Coverly » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:20 am

Ken Norman wrote:The above is your round 2 game?
The long game that was broadcast as De Coverly v Timson was in fact Milnes v Parsonage?


Yes.


Ken Norman wrote:So it would appear that the names on the live games cannot be trusted.
I wonder if this problem also affects the British Championship.



As far as is known, the Championship is correct. I wouldn't vouch for the morning events, but perhaps the participants are checking these.
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Re: ERRORS IN PUBLISHED GAMES IN THE BRITISH SENIORS

Postby Reg Clucas » Mon Aug 04, 2014 2:28 pm

The DGT board apparently malfunctioned during my final round game, with move 24 onwards being incorrect. This incorrect score also appears in the PGN file. I sent a copy of the correct score to the ECF office, and received a reply stating that it would be forwarded to the people who are able to do something about it.


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