2015 World Senior Team Ch 24 Feb-4 Mar

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Re: 2015 World Senior Team Ch 24 Feb-4 Mar

Post by Mick Norris » Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:28 pm

Keith Arkell wrote:Cheers Mick! 4:0, so helpful for any (typically unnecessarily convoluted) tiebreak.
We would much prefer the team to win every match, than us spend more time trying to work out tiebreaks :lol:

It is bad enough watching chess when I should be working :wink:
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Re: 2015 World Senior Team Ch 24 Feb-4 Mar

Post by Tim Harding » Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:27 pm

Michael Yeo wrote:So for the only round starting in the afternoon, Nigel has been rested.
Actually there are at least two good reasons why Nigel was rested in round one.

1) Round one, when they would clearly be playing much weaker opposition, was an obvious opportunity for reserve, team captain and sponsor Terry Chapman to get an early game while one of the GMs sat it out.

2) Nigel played six games at Bunratty over the weekend (finishing joint second behind Wesley So) and then had to wait for a ridiculously delayed prizegiving - which So (though he was staying at the hotel another night) could not be bothered to attend. Nigel had to get to Dublin for a very early Monday morning flight out to London, so my wife and I drove him; he didn't get to his hotel until about 11.30pm.

3) Nigel also had then to write his weekly newspaper column, probably about Bunratty, so he was hoping to miss round one in order to recuperate and get time to do that. He told me he would be quite happy to play the other eight rounds.

It's good that the top match in each tournament is being shown live. With a little luck, that should mean the England 50+ games will be shown live throughout the event.
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Re: 2015 World Senior Team Ch 24 Feb-4 Mar

Post by Carl Hibbard » Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:18 pm

As someone who hits 50 this year it's nice to watch the older generation.
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Re: 2015 World Senior Team Ch 24 Feb-4 Mar

Post by Tim Harding » Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:38 pm

Carl Hibbard wrote:As someone who hits 50 this year it's nice to watch the older generation.
Actually if you turn 50 during 2015 you are eligible to play in the "junior seniors" yourself. It is age at 31 December that counts.

Nigel Short is not actually 50 just yet.
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Re: 2015 World Senior Team Ch 24 Feb-4 Mar

Post by Roger de Coverly » Wed Feb 25, 2015 12:51 am

Carl wrote:Will the ECF report on it?
Chess Scotland are reporting a 3.5 to 0.5 win over Belgium 2 and a draw by their B team.
According to the tournament site, the England B team won 3-1.

There are enough people following the event that the unofficial ecforum is likely to be up to date with results including eye witness accounts.

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Re: 2015 World Senior Team Ch 24 Feb-4 Mar

Post by David Sedgwick » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:47 am

Barry Sandercock wrote:Is there a website which will give the pairings and results ? After much searching I've drawn a blank.
They are now available at http://www.schachfestival.de/world-seni ... rings.html.

The link was not there at the time of your post.

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Re: 2015 World Senior Team Ch 24 Feb-4 Mar

Post by Roger de Coverly » Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:28 am

David Sedgwick wrote: They are now available at http://www.schachfestival.de/world-seni ... rings.html.
It might be different at the venue, but that's just the team pairings rather than the actual player line-ups. Not knowing which opposing player he would be playing (on five player teams) seemed to be another of Nigel's criticisms.

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Re: 2015 World Senior Team Ch 24 Feb-4 Mar

Post by Michael Yeo » Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:37 am

Todays opponents only have a 4 man squad, so it should already be possible to work out who he will be playing. It might not be the same for the opposition however if Chapman were to play again.

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Re: 2015 World Senior Team Ch 24 Feb-4 Mar

Post by Barry Sandercock » Wed Feb 25, 2015 11:27 am

Chapman has won already, under two hours play.

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Re: 2015 World Senior Team Ch 24 Feb-4 Mar

Post by Tim Harding » Wed Feb 25, 2015 12:21 pm

England 50+ have won 4-0 today (Keith resting).
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Re: 2015 World Senior Team Ch 24 Feb-4 Mar

Post by Nigel Short » Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:00 pm

To be precise, I had a deadline for my New in Chess column on Tuesday, but Tim Harding was right that Sunday-Monday was exhausting due to acute lack of sleep and lengthy travel from Bunratty to Dresden. I was very grateful that the other guys gave me a day off to recuperate and remove a burden (the article) from my mind.

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Re: 2015 World Senior Team Ch 24 Feb-4 Mar

Post by Tim Harding » Thu Feb 26, 2015 10:54 am

Tim Harding wrote:Here is the link for the participants ...
The links for the Seniors team lists have changed.

http://www.schachfestival.de/world-seni ... pants.html

and for the 65+ event it is necessary to select the link for Section B, or go direct to

http://www.schachfestival.de/world-seni ... ft&tngid=3

Links in the panel on the left take you to the day's pairings and to live games.

Today England 1 are playing sixth seeds Lasker Gesellschaft while England 2 play Slovakia, the third seeds.

But where are the results of previous and current rounds to be found?
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Re: 2015 World Senior Team Ch 24 Feb-4 Mar

Post by Barry Sandercock » Thu Feb 26, 2015 11:10 am

Previous rounds results can be found by going to Pairings and then Runde number.

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Re: 2015 World Senior Team Ch 24 Feb-4 Mar

Post by Tim Harding » Thu Feb 26, 2015 11:41 am

Barry Sandercock wrote:Previous rounds results can be found by going to Pairings and then Runde number.
Thanks. I was looking for the 65+ results. I see we won 3-1 on Tuesday but lost 1-3 yesterday.

On another point, the clock times shown on the live boards do not seem at all reliable.

Especially in Speelman's game where a few minutes ago it was showing Gruenberg almost out of time, then the same time as Jon and next Jon in time trouble.
And the aggregate times in the various boards don't match at all. And it doesn't seem to be possible to turn the boards around. Very poor software compared with DGT.

Just now I see Jon has won, on board if not clock. His opponent was a FIDE IM, CC-GM, and one of the few players to beat Penrose in a postal game.
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Re: 2015 World Senior Team Ch 24 Feb-4 Mar

Post by Barry Sandercock » Thu Feb 26, 2015 11:50 am

Tim, it is possible to turn the boards around by clicking on the black dot on the right side of the board.

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