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Re: British Knock out 2019

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 6:23 pm
by Alex Holowczak
Peter Shaw wrote:
Fri Nov 29, 2019 4:47 pm
In one of his pre-round speeches, the organiser of the British rapidplay said that he wanted to FIDE rate it but apparently the ECF said it would have cost £800 so he didn't bother. I could have misheard though as this sounds pretty unlikely but I know nothing about such things.
It is wrong.

There is a cost for ECF grading, which Brent will still pay, which is waived if the relevant players are ECF silver members.

The additional surcharge for FIDE rating a Rapidplay tournament, on top of ECF grading a Rapidplay, is a whopping £0. The only cost is the time spent sending the rating files to the IRO.

We tried telling him this several years ago, and after many emails the message got through such that everything was FIDE rated. It seems to have now not got through again.

Re: British Knock out 2019

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:49 am
by Richard Bates
On the basis of published participants and pairings, Adam Taylor is going to be a bit overworked this morning!

Re: British Knock out 2019

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 1:08 am
by David Sedgwick
Richard Bates wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:49 am
On the basis of published participants and pairings, Adam Taylor is going to be a bit overworked this morning!
Thank you for pointing this out. I have emailed the relevant people.

Re: British Knock out 2019

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 2:21 pm
by Alex Holowczak
Keith Arkell wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 3:08 pm
Haha! I wonder whether the day will comer when ageism is taken as seriously as sexism? Imagine the furore if an event invited all the best boys but ignored the girls of the same or stronger playing strength!
I don't know that this is the answer, but ...

Women and UK-based Under 25s get free entry to the festival events, because CSC's charitable objectives are specific about Under 25s and women.

I guess the reason for the British Knockout Preliminary Round being composed this way is because of where the money is coming from.

Re: British Knock out 2019

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 6:54 pm
by LawrenceCooper
Final Standings

Rank Name Score Rating

1 Harvey, Marcus R 8½/9
2= Clarke, Brandon G I & Horton, Andrew P 6/9
4= Fernandez, Daniel Howard, Merry, Alan B & Taylor, Adam C 5½/9
7 Willow, Jonah B 5/9
8= McPhillips, Joseph, Claridge-Hansen, William, Wadsworth, Matthew J & Golding, Alex 4½/9
12 Haria, Ravi 4/9
13 Head, Louise 3½/9
14 Toma, Katarzyna 3/9
15 Pein, Jonathan 1½/9
16 Kalaiyalahan, Akshaya 0/9

Re: British Knock out 2019

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:22 pm
by Nick Burrows
Wow, super impressive from Marcus!

Re: British Knock out 2019

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:37 pm
by Kevin Thurlow
So the qualifier for the KO event is an all-play-all?

Re: British Knock out 2019

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:13 pm
by David Shepherd
Kevin Thurlow wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:37 pm
So the qualifier for the KO event is an all-play-all?

I think that's a no given 16 players and 9 rounds.

Re: British Knock out 2019

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:41 pm
by Nick Burrows
So the qualifier for the KO is a swiss?

Re: British Knock out 2019

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:57 pm
by Roger de Coverly
Nick Burrows wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:41 pm
So the qualifier for the KO is a swiss?
The 8 players in the Knock Out are the 5 who were the ENG team in the Olympiad and European Championship plus 3 qualifiers out of 16 invited players who took part in a 9 round Swiss rapidplay today.

Re: British Knock out 2019

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 11:05 pm
by Kevin Thurlow
"I think that's a no given 16 players and 9 rounds."

A fair point...

Re: British Knock out 2019

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2019 1:36 am
by Keith Arkell
Alex Holowczak wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 2:21 pm
Keith Arkell wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 3:08 pm
Haha! I wonder whether the day will comer when ageism is taken as seriously as sexism? Imagine the furore if an event invited all the best boys but ignored the girls of the same or stronger playing strength!
I don't know that this is the answer, but ...

Women and UK-based Under 25s get free entry to the festival events, because CSC's charitable objectives are specific about Under 25s and women.

I guess the reason for the British Knockout Preliminary Round being composed this way is because of where the money is coming from.
Yes I'm sure that's the case, Alex. I don't want to fight a one-man crusade about this, hence my whimsical emoticons, but the day may come when it is considered as much out of order to have a policy of giving an invite to a 24 year old ahead of, say, an equally qualified and equally ambitious 42 year old, solely because of his age, as it is today to have a policy of giving an invite to a man ahead of an equally qualified and equally ambitious woman, because he is a man. Or ditto re colour of skin.

But,as I said on my Facebook wall, in my own case it's swings and roundabouts given that I got a wild card entry to the Isle of Man World Championship Candidates qualifier ahead of numerous players significantly stronger than me :P

Anyway it was a nice event, played between many young friends of mine, and I'd like to see the qualifiers play their very best chess in the next phase.

Re: British Knock out 2019

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:50 am
by Nick Burrows
A rich reward for Marcus smashing the qualifying tournament. Adams Vs Harvey

Re: British Knock out 2019

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:07 pm
by Thomas Rendle
He seems to be giving a good account of himself so far at least. I wonder if moving very fast vs everyone means he's less likely to get nervous? He must be full of confidence from yesterday.

Re: British Knock out 2019

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2019 7:25 pm
by Jonathan Rogers
seemingly so, I must make a point of watching the play-off!