Exhausted Tie Breaks

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Andrew Zigmond
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Re: Exhausted Tie Breaks

Post by Andrew Zigmond » Sun May 12, 2019 1:29 pm

The play-off has now taken place with Harrogate A winning by the narrowest possible margin.
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Re: Exhausted Tie Breaks

Post by Alex Holowczak » Mon May 13, 2019 9:54 pm

Andrew Zigmond wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 1:29 pm
The play-off has now taken place with Harrogate A winning by the narrowest possible margin.
Damn, I was hoping for all drawn games and another kerfuffle as to what to do next. :lol:

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Re: Exhausted Tie Breaks

Post by Andrew Zigmond » Tue May 14, 2019 1:57 pm

Alex Holowczak wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 9:54 pm
Andrew Zigmond wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 1:29 pm
The play-off has now taken place with Harrogate A winning by the narrowest possible margin.
Damn, I was hoping for all drawn games and another kerfuffle as to what to do next. :lol:
It was agreed on my suggestion (as chairman of Harrogate which the Harrogate captain relayed to the Rose Forgrove captain) to use the same tie break rules as the county championships. So in the event of all draws the team with black on board 1 would have won (Rose Forgrove).
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Re: Exhausted Tie Breaks

Post by MartinCarpenter » Tue May 14, 2019 10:50 pm

That was clever :) Well done Harrogate.

Fairly sure its the first time Forgrove have been relegated in their existence. They'll very likely come straight back up again of course.

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Re: Exhausted Tie Breaks

Post by Roger de Coverly » Tue May 14, 2019 10:56 pm

Andrew Zigmond wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 1:57 pm
So in the event of all draws the team with black on board 1 would have won (Rose Forgrove).
That's really quite a useful little rule. Did the teams have choice of colours? The usual rule of thumb would be that taking White on 1 is the better option if you anticipate a possible drawn match and the application of board count or bottom board elimination.

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Re: Exhausted Tie Breaks

Post by Andrew Zigmond » Tue May 14, 2019 11:37 pm

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 10:56 pm
Andrew Zigmond wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 1:57 pm
So in the event of all draws the team with black on board 1 would have won (Rose Forgrove).
That's really quite a useful little rule. Did the teams have choice of colours? The usual rule of thumb would be that taking White on 1 is the better option if you anticipate a possible drawn match and the application of board count or bottom board elimination.
The Yorkshire League rules stipulate that the away team has white on the odd boards (a relatively recent change, until 2011 it was a coin toss). Rose Forgrove were the away team in the original match. They hosted the replay (not at their usual venue which was unavailable, as was Harrogate's) and colours were switched from the original match.
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Re: Exhausted Tie Breaks

Post by Andrew Zigmond » Tue May 14, 2019 11:42 pm

MartinCarpenter wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 10:50 pm
That was clever :) Well done Harrogate.

Fairly sure its the first time Forgrove have been relegated in their existence. They'll very likely come straight back up again of course.
They were one of only four teams that have been consistently in the Woodhouse Cup since (at least) the late nineties along with Bradford A, Sheffield A and York RI A. Interestingly the last time Rose Forgrove won any silverware was 1992 when their B Team won the Silver Rook (and have stayed in the IM Brown ever since, bubbling under as promotion contenders a couple of times).
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