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EPSCA ECF membership requirement: Gold or Bronze?
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 2:30 pm
by John Upham
I have seen an email from Nigel Dennis informing Team Managers that for the upcoming EPSCA zonals in March that ECF Junior GOLD membership is required and that Junior Bronze in insufficient.
Obviously if is it free it matters not a jot but if is a renewal then it does matter and it will become so at renewal time in 2026.
Is Gold the correct category for ECF rated junior events?
Re: EPSCA ECF membership requirement: Gold or Bronze?
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 2:38 pm
by IM Jack Rudd
Aren't they team events? Team events are normally bronze, unless they're FIDE rated.
Re: EPSCA ECF membership requirement: Gold or Bronze?
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 3:11 pm
by John Upham
IM Jack Rudd wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 2:38 pm
Aren't they team events? Team events are normally bronze, unless they're FIDE rated.
Quite Jack and thanks for confirming.
However Our Nige' insists on Gold for a junior team event for primary school aged children who have not played in a rated event previously.
Re: EPSCA ECF membership requirement: Gold or Bronze?
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:09 pm
by Neill Cooper
Is ECF membership needed for such a team event? (So long as they play less than 8 rapid play games.)
Re: EPSCA ECF membership requirement: Gold or Bronze?
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:32 pm
by John Upham
Neill Cooper wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:09 pm
Is ECF membership needed for such a team event? (So long as they play less than 8 rapid play games.)
Let's say, for example, that some of them have already played other rated games without being an ECF member and the March games trigger the admin fee from the rating team?
Re: EPSCA ECF membership requirement: Gold or Bronze?
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 6:23 pm
by Neill Cooper
No, the team event counts separately. The limit is not total number of games but games within a particular context.
Re: EPSCA ECF membership requirement: Gold or Bronze?
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:53 am
by John Upham
Neill Cooper wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 6:23 pm
No, the team event counts separately.
Can you point me to where this is documented please Neill?
Re: EPSCA ECF membership requirement: Gold or Bronze?
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 3:43 pm
by Gallowayalex
Sorry what tournament is this for? Not the primary schools championships (I hope...)?
Re: EPSCA ECF membership requirement: Gold or Bronze?
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:11 pm
by John Upham
Gallowayalex wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2025 3:43 pm
Sorry what tournament is this for? Not the primary schools championships (I hope...)?
Specifically the EPSCA county U9, U11 and U11 girls zonals in March 2025. I believe that this season will be Nigel's swansong for the EPSCA zonals before much needed format changes championed by Alex H. and others come into force.
March 8th, March 15th and 22nd are the dates in my diary.
Re: EPSCA ECF membership requirement: Gold or Bronze?
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:52 pm
by John Upham
Here is the recent missive from Our Nige:
"Dear x,
Silver membership has been discontinued. Junior Gold is now required as games go for ECF rating.
Nigel"
Re: EPSCA ECF membership requirement: Gold or Bronze?
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 7:18 pm
by Neill Cooper
John Upham wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:53 am
Neill Cooper wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 6:23 pm
No, the team event counts separately.
Can you point me to where this is documented please Neill?
https://www.englishchess.org.uk/members ... 024-25-v1/
Section 2 – Leagues and other team events (including jamborees) which are not FIDE-rated
In particular "It applies to all games played within events organised by a particular league, in whatever division, in whatever league format, or in a league’s team knock-out or jamboree events if any. However, it is not aggregated across leagues, so a player can play three games in the Eastshire League and three in the Westshire League without fee; " (3 here as it is standard play)