First thread on LCC 2012 ?
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First thread on LCC 2012 ?
Apparently so. Are we going to have a predictions contest? (Better still, will the YCA run it and give me another prize? ) If we do, I think there should be bonus points for guessing the position after move three on each game.
Anyway, first round pairings on saturday are
Luke McShane v Magnus Carlsen
Levon Aronian v Hikaru Nakamura
Vladimir Kramnik v Judit Polgar
Gawain Jones v Michael Adams
seemingly a good pairing for Gawain - surely White v Adams is the most reliable bet of the lot for a solid half-point start. I am guessing that Kramnik's score v Polgar with White is huge, actually I wonder if it's rather good with Black too - and remember he won this event last year just by beating all the weaker (er, English) players, and so will be looking at Polgar with the same sort of eye. McShane has an early White v Carlsen for the third consecutive year ! We will get a good early indication whether Naka is likely to repeat his excellent result of last year.
Anyway, first round pairings on saturday are
Luke McShane v Magnus Carlsen
Levon Aronian v Hikaru Nakamura
Vladimir Kramnik v Judit Polgar
Gawain Jones v Michael Adams
seemingly a good pairing for Gawain - surely White v Adams is the most reliable bet of the lot for a solid half-point start. I am guessing that Kramnik's score v Polgar with White is huge, actually I wonder if it's rather good with Black too - and remember he won this event last year just by beating all the weaker (er, English) players, and so will be looking at Polgar with the same sort of eye. McShane has an early White v Carlsen for the third consecutive year ! We will get a good early indication whether Naka is likely to repeat his excellent result of last year.
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Re: First thread on LCC 2012 ?
Maybe, but this could be The Corporal's best chance of a win at the LCC so perhaps he'll try to play for a win?Jonathan Rogers wrote:... seemingly a good pairing for Gawain - surely White v Adams is the most reliable bet of the lot for a solid half-point start.
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Fair enough but Jones winning it - or coming close - would in my view be to surpass even Glenn Flear's London result in 1986James Byrne wrote:I think Carlsen will win the LCC and break Kasparov's rating record. However, I'd love to see McShane or Jones win it.
To the other Jonathan - I would think that if Jones wins a game, it will be as White v someone who plays a Sicilian or French.
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Re: First thread on LCC 2012 ?
I just hope Anand turns up and actually attempts to play this year
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Re: First thread on LCC 2012 ?
My prediction is for Carlsen to win and to be the only winner in round 1
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My prediction:
Luke McShane v Magnus Carlsen 0 - 1
Levon Aronian v Hikaru Nakamura Draw
Vladimir Kramnik v Judit Polgar 1 - 0
Gawain Jones v Michael Adams Draw
But hey what do I know?
Luke McShane v Magnus Carlsen 0 - 1
Levon Aronian v Hikaru Nakamura Draw
Vladimir Kramnik v Judit Polgar 1 - 0
Gawain Jones v Michael Adams Draw
But hey what do I know?
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Re: First thread on LCC 2012 ?
Doesn't Magnus normally start slowly in tournaments?
How about 4 white wins?
How about 4 white wins?
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Four white wins sounds like a long shot, but maybe a couple, something like this:
Luke McShane v Magnus Carlsen Draw
Levon Aronian v Hikaru Nakamura 1 - 0
Vladimir Kramnik v Judit Polgar 1 - 0
Gawain Jones v Michael Adams Draw
Difficult to see any black wins, unless McShane overpresses.
Luke McShane v Magnus Carlsen Draw
Levon Aronian v Hikaru Nakamura 1 - 0
Vladimir Kramnik v Judit Polgar 1 - 0
Gawain Jones v Michael Adams Draw
Difficult to see any black wins, unless McShane overpresses.
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If I recall correctly, Luke played Magnus in the first round last year and won. So one would expect defensive play from Magnus, but the lad is unpredictable, which is why I enjoy watching his matches.
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Predicting the position after 3 moves does not seem to have caught on, but I'll try it anyway -
Luke McShane v Magnus Carlsen (1 c4 e6 2 g3 Nf6 3 Bg2 d5) draw
Levon Aronian v Hikaru Nakamura (1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 g6 3 Nc3 Bg7) 1-0
Vladimir Kramnik v Judit Polgar (1 Nf3 Nf6 2 c4 e6 3 d4 d5) 1-0
Gawain Jones v Michael Adams (1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 d4 exd4) draw
Luke McShane v Magnus Carlsen (1 c4 e6 2 g3 Nf6 3 Bg2 d5) draw
Levon Aronian v Hikaru Nakamura (1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 g6 3 Nc3 Bg7) 1-0
Vladimir Kramnik v Judit Polgar (1 Nf3 Nf6 2 c4 e6 3 d4 d5) 1-0
Gawain Jones v Michael Adams (1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 d4 exd4) draw
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Re: First thread on LCC 2012 ?
I think most people would be quite happy to predict the first move from each player and leave it at that!Jonathan Rogers wrote:Predicting the position after 3 moves does not seem to have caught on, but I'll try it anyway -
Luke McShane v Magnus Carlsen (1 c4 e6 2 g3 Nf6 3 Bg2 d5) draw
Levon Aronian v Hikaru Nakamura (1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 g6 3 Nc3 Bg7) 1-0
Vladimir Kramnik v Judit Polgar (1 Nf3 Nf6 2 c4 e6 3 d4 d5) 1-0
Gawain Jones v Michael Adams (1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 d4 exd4) draw
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It can be easier to guess the first three or four moves, if one wishes to predict a certain opening. Eg, the Catalan might be reached by almost any move order by either side, so you have a much better chance of predicting the position after move three or four than after move one.
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Re: First thread on LCC 2012 ?
R1 pairings for the FIDE Open up at: http://www.classic.livechess.co.uk/2012 ... index.html
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0/4 for White's first move.....Jonathan Rogers wrote:Predicting the position after 3 moves does not seem to have caught on, but I'll try it anyway -
Luke McShane v Magnus Carlsen (1 c4 e6 2 g3 Nf6 3 Bg2 d5) draw
Levon Aronian v Hikaru Nakamura (1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 g6 3 Nc3 Bg7) 1-0
Vladimir Kramnik v Judit Polgar (1 Nf3 Nf6 2 c4 e6 3 d4 d5) 1-0
Gawain Jones v Michael Adams (1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 d4 exd4) draw