Buying things second hand
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CT-Art 4.0
Hello,
I wondered if anyone can offer me a serial number for this program?
Annoyingly I just purchased it off Ebay, only for it to come without the manual or Serial number which makes it completely useless .
Many thanks in advance, Nick.
I wondered if anyone can offer me a serial number for this program?
Annoyingly I just purchased it off Ebay, only for it to come without the manual or Serial number which makes it completely useless .
Many thanks in advance, Nick.
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Re: CT-Art 4.0
Hi Nick.
if you enter 'ct-art 4.0 + serial number' into google you get a load of sites
that claim to have it.
Some of them look dodgy and most likely are.
So amble along to your local internet cafe with a pen and paper and look at them from there.
if you enter 'ct-art 4.0 + serial number' into google you get a load of sites
that claim to have it.
Some of them look dodgy and most likely are.
So amble along to your local internet cafe with a pen and paper and look at them from there.
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Re: CT-Art 4.0
Buy a bonafide copy with a bonafide serial number from a respected retailer and everything will be OK.
Anything else is basically swindling the creators out of royalty payments.
Anything else is basically swindling the creators out of royalty payments.
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Buying things second hand
It was just suggested to me by both Carl Hibbard and Andrew Martin that buying things second hand is improper, and not even worthy of having a thread.
This concept is literally new to me. I have NEVER heard it suggested that buying something second hand is wrong. Am I missing something or is this just me??
I guess everyone who ever bought a second hand chess book should hang their heads in shame!
Now I see what some of the censor complaints are about - Ridiculous.
Ps Thankyou Geoff for being your usual friendly and helpful self.
This concept is literally new to me. I have NEVER heard it suggested that buying something second hand is wrong. Am I missing something or is this just me??
I guess everyone who ever bought a second hand chess book should hang their heads in shame!
Now I see what some of the censor complaints are about - Ridiculous.
Ps Thankyou Geoff for being your usual friendly and helpful self.
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Re: Buying things second hand
It's usually legal to buy second hand software, but it's usually against the restrictions placed on it by the original vendors if a copy remains with the seller. So in the case of your E-Bay seller, he or she should have supplied you with the manual, the activation code as well as the original disk and should have purged the copy on their computer.Nick Burrows wrote: This concept is literally new to me. I have NEVER heard it suggested that buying something second hand is wrong. Am I missing something or is this just me??
The analogy with buying a second hand book is that you don't expect the vendor to have retained a photocopy of the entire contents.
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Yes so hence my post, as I made a valid purchase and was short changed. Someone could photocopy a book, or burn a copy of some software but that is the sellers concern. Yet I have been shut down like some lowlife charlatan rather than the usual helpful poster that I am.Roger de Coverly wrote:It's usually legal to buy second hand software, but it's usually against the restrictions placed on it by the original vendors if a copy remains with the seller. So in the case of your E-Bay seller, he or she should have supplied you with the manual, the activation code as well as the original disk and should have purged the copy on their computer.Nick Burrows wrote: This concept is literally new to me. I have NEVER heard it suggested that buying something second hand is wrong. Am I missing something or is this just me??
The analogy with buying a second hand book is that you don't expect the vendor to have retained a photocopy of the entire contents.
And yes I had a bad day at work!
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Re: Buying things second hand
Can you not do negative feedback unless the vendor coughs up with the original manual and activation code? If he or she cannot supply, it's not really a valid sale, so you could ask for your money back.Nick Burrows wrote: Yes so hence my post, as I made a valid purchase and was short changed.
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Unfortunately I left it too long between buying and using the product. Annoying.Roger de Coverly wrote:Can you not do negative feedback unless the vendor coughs up with the original manual and activation code? If he or she cannot supply, it's not really a valid sale, so you could ask for your money back.Nick Burrows wrote: Yes so hence my post, as I made a valid purchase and was short changed.
Re: Buying things second hand
I don't think they said that in your original thread.Nick Burrows wrote:It was just suggested to me by both Carl Hibbard and Andrew Martin that buying things second hand is improper, and not even worthy of having a thread.
As I understand it, you were after a key for software, which is effectively piracy. I don't see anywhere where they said that buying second hand items was a bad thing.
Unless you had some other conversation not covered on the boards.
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Re: Buying things second hand
They suggested that I was swindling the creators out of royalty payments. I was not. I made an honest purchase and was swindled myself - so i checked to see if anyone could help me out in good faith.
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Re: Buying things second hand
You would be shut down if your going against what A Martin said something i have never understood my self as his view is no more important than any one else on here but he has a few loyal supporters who post on here Take no notice your legal entitled to buy second or new chess items on E bay and have dome nothing wrong. You can leave feed back on E bay about this person.Next time before buying on E bay send the seller a message checking the item does have serial number manual before buying it.E bay allow this on the site for you to ask questions before buying.I have done this many times over items i want and have always had a reply from the sellerNick Burrows wrote:
Yes so hence my post, as I made a valid purchase and was short changed. Someone could photocopy a book, or burn a copy of some software but that is the sellers concern. Yet I have been shut down like some lowlife charlatan rather than the usual helpful poster that I am.
And yes I had a bad day at work!
The seller of the item may not have know you need serial number as some sellers buy lots of stuff and would not be an expert on chess items,You can contact the seller to and explain to him/her as often sellers on E bay want good feed back.
Looks like weather going to break over night.
when you are successful many losers bark at you.
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Re: Buying things second hand
I apologise if this was the case and will merge threads when I get home.Nick Burrows wrote:They suggested that I was swindling the creators out of royalty payments. I was not. I made an honest purchase and was swindled myself - so i checked to see if anyone could help me out in good faith.
Buying second hand software on eBay is always going to be classed as dodgy.
The reference to a google of a serial number caught my eye rather than your original post.
Cheers
Carl Hibbard
Carl Hibbard
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Re: Buying things second hand
Not if you check with the ebay seller first about the chess item coming with serial number manual before buying it.Carl Hibbard wrote:
Buying second hand software on eBay is always going to be classed as dodgy.
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when you are successful many losers bark at you.