European Championship - Team ENGLAND

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Re: European Championship - Team ENGLAND

Post by Mark Howitt » Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:47 am

@nigelshortchess is hopeful of England's chances! "@MarkHowitt Better than usual. The oldies are not quite on their zimmer-frames and hopefully Luke still remembers the en passant rule."

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Re: European Championship - Team ENGLAND

Post by John Philpott » Mon Oct 21, 2013 1:45 pm

In the meantime, the following announcement has appeared on the ECF website
England Women's Team

After further discussion with the European Chess Union, the English Chess Federation is pleased to announce the participation of the England Women’s Team in the 2013 European Team Championships.

This nine-round event will take place in Warsaw from November 8th to 17th. The team will consist of –
IM Dagne Ciuksyte, WIM Sabrina Chevannes, WGM Anya Corke, WFM Meri Grigoryan and WFM Kanwal Bhatia.

This event will bring together top players in the world’s strongest continental team championship.
Best wishes to our team!

- David Openshaw, International Director

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Re: European Championship - Team ENGLAND

Post by Mick Norris » Mon Oct 21, 2013 1:59 pm

Why the change of mind? And what does the ECU have to do with it?
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Re: European Championship - Team ENGLAND

Post by IM Jack Rudd » Mon Oct 21, 2013 2:25 pm

Mick Norris wrote:Why the change of mind? And what does the ECU have to do with it?
It's an entry after the deadline, so special dispensation had to be granted from the ECU.

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Re: European Championship - Team ENGLAND

Post by John Swain » Mon Oct 21, 2013 2:30 pm

IM Jack Rudd wrote:
Mick Norris wrote:Why the change of mind? And what does the ECU have to do with it?
It's an entry after the deadline, so special dispensation had to be granted from the ECU.
The deadline appears to have been 15 August, so presumably we had entered a team, later withdrew it, then discovered we could raise/finance a team after all so wished to re-register.

Whatever the procedural complications, it's very good news, even if it's not our strongest team.

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Re: European Championship - Team ENGLAND

Post by Mark Howitt » Mon Oct 21, 2013 2:46 pm

I think we should have got Judit Polgar as well!!

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Re: European Championship - Team ENGLAND

Post by IM Jack Rudd » Mon Oct 21, 2013 2:48 pm

Mark Howitt wrote:I think we should have got Judit Polgar as well!!
An excellent idea, Mark, with just two minor flaws. One, she isn't registered with England, and two, she isn't registered with England. I know that, technically speaking, this is only one flaw, but I thought it was such a big one that it was worth mentioning twice.

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Re: European Championship - Team ENGLAND

Post by Mark Howitt » Mon Oct 21, 2013 2:48 pm

It's not too late... what we need to do RIGHT NOW is have more meetings with the ECU.... then bring in ALL THE POLGARS... winner!

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Re: European Championship - Team ENGLAND

Post by Mark Howitt » Mon Oct 21, 2013 2:49 pm

That doesn't matter Jack, several of our players weren't registered with England before/played for another country! Quick, get them in and give them an England stamp!

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Re: European Championship - Team ENGLAND

Post by IM Jack Rudd » Mon Oct 21, 2013 3:00 pm

Mark Howitt wrote:That doesn't matter Jack, several of our players weren't registered with England before/played for another country! Quick, get them in and give them an England stamp!
You're quite clearly trolling here, but I'll spell out the difference anyway. Ciuksyte and Grigoryan have lived in England for years. Corke is a British citizen. They may have represented other countries in the past, but what of it? Polgar is not a British citizen, has never lived in any part of the UK, and wouldn't be playing in our women's team anyway even if she did transfer to us - she's strong enough to get into our Open team.

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Re: European Championship - Team ENGLAND

Post by Paul Bielby » Mon Oct 21, 2013 4:18 pm

Big question. Do they have a coach?

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Re: European Championship - Team ENGLAND

Post by John Moore » Mon Oct 21, 2013 5:12 pm

Surely a minibus will be big enough.

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Re: European Championship - Team ENGLAND

Post by Chris Dossett » Mon Oct 21, 2013 6:30 pm

IM Jack Rudd wrote:
Mark Howitt wrote:I think we should have got Judit Polgar as well!!
An excellent idea, Mark, with just two minor flaws. One, she isn't registered with England, and two, she isn't registered with England. I know that, technically speaking, this is only one flaw, but I thought it was such a big one that it was worth mentioning twice.
Thank you Jack "Kryten" Rudd. They are going to miss you on the ECF committee.

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Post by John Upham » Mon Oct 21, 2013 6:40 pm

Paul Bielby wrote:Big question. Do they have a coach?
Another big question: do they have a couch?
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Re: European Championship - Team ENGLAND

Post by John Swain » Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:13 pm

John Upham wrote:
Paul Bielby wrote:Big question. Do they have a coach?
Another big question: do they have a couch?
I imagine this is meant to be in jest, but I'm not sure everyone will share your sense of humour. :roll:

It's great news that the ECF has been able to field a women's team after initially pleading poverty. The resulting criticism presumably helped the ECF to realise that they had got their priorities wrong (they should have seen it as equally important to send a women's team as well as a men's).

So I would imagine that many female English chess-players remain to be convinced that the mainly male officer-class of the ECF has their best interests at heart. They may also take the same view of Forumites too if we allow jokes in poor taste to go unchallenged.

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