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Re: We're goin' to Vegas!!!

Post by Steven DuCharme » Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:19 pm

Kudos to Wesley So on his conquest of the Millionaire Chess Open
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Re: We're goin' to Vegas!!!

Post by Stewart Reuben » Wed Oct 15, 2014 11:25 pm

I expect Wesley will also be pleased with the money. He intends to change federations to the USA. We discussed this when we met by accident in Tromso.

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Re: We're goin' to Vegas!!!

Post by Roger de Coverly » Wed Oct 15, 2014 11:36 pm

Stewart Reuben wrote:I expect Wesley will also be pleased with the money. He intends to change federations to the USA.
Isn't there some "FIDE are evil" dispute over this. It might be acceptable that he isn't allowed to play for the USA in team events, but won't he also be banned from playing in any events that are potential world championship qualifiers?

The same would apply to Caruana if he were to decide he was more American than Italian and the Italian Federation decided not to let him have a transfer.

Kasparov's acquired mate Leong is now out of the picture for the time being. Isn't it a chance for FIDE to wind back some or all of his more pernicious measures?

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Re: We're goin' to Vegas!!!

Post by Stewart Reuben » Thu Oct 16, 2014 12:21 am

There is a fee if a player wishes to change federations and the current federation does not agree. The higher the rating, the higher the fee. The concept is fair enough. FIDE don't want people changing federations on a whim. The problem is the scale.

We have that Singapore IM youngster Rodriguez who now lives in England. He won't be selected for Singapore as they have rigid rules about residency. It can't be right that they stand in his way. But I don't know that they are doing so.

The FIDE PB did not have to agree to proposals made by Leong.

I have been appointed by the Qualification Commission (although no longer a member of the QC) as a member of an Action Group concerning this matter of transfers. My interest was whetted by the So and Rodriguez cases. I doubt anything will happen soon.

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Re: We're goin' to Vegas!!!

Post by Roger de Coverly » Thu Oct 16, 2014 12:26 am

Stewart Reuben wrote: FIDE don't want people changing federations on a whim. The problem is the scale.
Rights to play in qualifiers for the World Championship should be independent of the approval or otherwise of national Federations. It was a precedent set by Euwe over Korchnoi. Why cannot this be honoured?

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Re: We're goin' to Vegas!!!

Post by Richard Bates » Thu Oct 16, 2014 5:54 am

Stewart Reuben wrote:There is a fee if a player wishes to change federations and the current federation does not agree. The higher the rating, the higher the fee. The concept is fair enough. FIDE don't want people changing federations on a whim. The problem is the scale.

We have that Singapore IM youngster Rodriguez who now lives in England. He won't be selected for Singapore as they have rigid rules about residency. It can't be right that they stand in his way. But I don't know that they are doing so.

The FIDE PB did not have to agree to proposals made by Leong.

I have been appointed by the Qualification Commission (although no longer a member of the QC) as a member of an Action Group concerning this matter of transfers. My interest was whetted by the So and Rodriguez cases. I doubt anything will happen soon.
I assume you mean Fernandez.

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Re: We're goin' to Vegas!!!

Post by Stewart Reuben » Fri Oct 17, 2014 12:06 am

Indeed yes, Fernandez. Thank you.

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Re: We're goin' to Vegas!!!

Post by Roger de Coverly » Fri Oct 17, 2014 12:25 am

Stewart Reuben wrote: The FIDE PB did not have to agree to proposals made by Leong.
Unlike physical sports, there are no barriers to playing chess at a respectable level, even at an advanced age. So the question has to be asked of administrators and decision-makers, is that if they are so disinterested that they no longer play or never played, should not they stand down from decision making? It applies to ECF decision making just as much as FIDE. You can validly argue that specialist roles such as being an arbiter or junior organiser don't require continued playing experience.

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Re: We're goin' to Vegas!!!

Post by Stewart Reuben » Fri Oct 17, 2014 2:34 am

Well, I would naturally go along with that, having gained nearly 50 Rating points in the last 6 months.
I tried to introduce a rule that all new IA had to be above a certan FIDE Rating. Perhaps I chose 1800 or 1600, I don't remember, but it got nowhere.
How did we get here from Vegas?

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