EU Referendum - in or out?

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Re: EU Referendum - in or out?

Post by PeterFarr » Mon May 30, 2016 9:20 pm

Christopher Kreuzer wrote: I think withdrawing from any supranational body in the current geopolitical climate is a backward step. Countries both individually and together need to step up and stand firm and work to resolve problems, rather than backing away from them. The same applies to Jordan as well.
Well written, Chris. "In" for me, with misgivings, but mainly for the reasons that Chris articulates.

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Re: EU Referendum - in or out?

Post by Mick Norris » Mon May 30, 2016 9:58 pm

Christopher Kreuzer wrote:(Hah, postal voting, Mick?)
Yes, always the easiest way, does amuse me to vote before the campaigns have reached a crescendo
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Re: EU Referendum - in or out?

Post by John McKenna » Mon May 30, 2016 10:00 pm

.... (Hah, postal voting, Mick?)
Either that or, as I've long suspected, he's a Time Lord.

A lot of people here seem to be in tune with their "INner" selves.

I, somewhat reluctantly, prefer the "OUTer" limits.
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Re: EU Referendum - in or out?

Post by John McKenna » Mon May 30, 2016 10:07 pm

Mick Norris wrote:
Christopher Kreuzer wrote:(Hah, postal voting, Mick?)
Yes, always the easiest way, does amuse me to vote before the campaigns have reached a crescendo
How can we be sure that you don't already know the outcome was a dead heat and that while kibitzing in the future you decided to decide it with your "postal" vote, eh Mick? (Was the box you used to vote red, or was it blue with a flashing light on top?)
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Re: EU Referendum - in or out?

Post by Mick Norris » Mon May 30, 2016 10:31 pm

John McKenna wrote:
Mick Norris wrote:
Christopher Kreuzer wrote:(Hah, postal voting, Mick?)
Yes, always the easiest way, does amuse me to vote before the campaigns have reached a crescendo
How can we be sure that you don't already know the outcome was a dead heat and that while kibitzing in the future you decided to decide it with your "postal" vote, eh Mick? (Was the box you used to vote red, or was it blue with a flashing light on top?)
The post box was red :wink:
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Re: EU Referendum - in or out?

Post by John McKenna » Thu Jun 02, 2016 12:32 am

Presumably you only had to travel down the road a little while to post your vote in that red post box, which therefore probably had EIIR embossed on it.

But, on your more extended travels, have you ever come across one with CIIIR carved in relief on it?
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Re: EU Referendum - in or out?

Post by Mick Norris » Thu Jun 02, 2016 8:05 am

The only thing I notice about postboxes is the colour, we have a gold one in town
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Re: EU Referendum - in or out?

Post by John McKenna » Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:07 am

I suppose the local postie is C-PIIIO.
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Re: EU Referendum - in or out?

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Thu Jun 02, 2016 11:18 am

I only got 14/28 in this quiz:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-e ... m-36400702

HINT: There is a pattern if you can spot it, but don't give it away!

(Actually, the introduction to the quiz makes the pattern clear, but I failed to read that closely enough.)

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Re: EU Referendum - in or out?

Post by Mick Norris » Thu Jun 02, 2016 11:48 am

I got 16/28
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Re: EU Referendum - in or out?

Post by IM Jack Rudd » Thu Jun 02, 2016 12:53 pm

I scored 23.

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Re: EU Referendum - in or out?

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Thu Jun 02, 2016 1:27 pm

Which ones did you find hardest (or get wrong)? Recognising the leaders of other countries is not easy... Some I guessed correctly, but some I knew but still got wrong by second-guessing my initial instinct. (Second time round, I managed to get 28, which I suppose says something for being able to remember the right answers.)

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Re: EU Referendum - in or out?

Post by IM Jack Rudd » Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:10 pm

The earlier ones. Once I'd worked out the pattern, a lot of it was a memory test for what had already come up.

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Re: EU Referendum - in or out?

Post by Peter D Williams » Thu Jun 02, 2016 4:12 pm

Afternoon friends :wink:

I will be voting no in the Referendum with a pen so no civil sevant can rub it out and then put a yes vote.
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Re: EU Referendum - in or out?

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Fri Jun 03, 2016 1:11 pm

Worth quoting in full in this thread:

http://www.the-tls.co.uk/articles/publi ... o-britain/
TLSA love letter to the British people, from Europe wrote:All of us in Europe respect the right of the British people to decide whether they wish to remain with us in the European Union. It is your decision, and we will all accept it. Nevertheless, if it will help the undecided to make up their minds, we would like to express how very much we value having the United Kingdom in the European Union. It is not just treaties that join us to your country, but bonds of admiration and affection. All of us hope that you will vote to renew them. Britain, please stay.
There are around 146 signatories including:

Veselin Topalov (BUL), Chess grandmaster and former world champion
Maxime Vachier-Lagrave (FRA), Chess grandmaster, former junior world champion

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