Is it copyright infringement?

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Post by IM Jack Rudd » Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:19 pm

IM Jack Rudd wrote:
IM Jack Rudd wrote:Consult a lawyer. We are not a lawyer, we are a chess forum.

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Re: Is it copyright infringement?

Post by soheil_hooshdaran » Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:37 pm

Christopher Kreuzer wrote:
"Iran’s messy, complicated, yet fascinating translation scene"

:lol: :lol:

"translation is a passion career, with little to no financial reward and months spent waiting to obtain permission"

:shock:

So much in that article feels... familiar!
Yes, and people need knowledge, the majority of whom don't know English.
But that's not big money. That's why translation cannot be a full-time job! Even the sloppy translation

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Re: Is it copyright infringement?

Post by IM Jack Rudd » Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:41 pm

I have friends for whom translation is a full-time job, but I suppose translation into English is a rather bigger market than translation into Farsi.

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Re: Is it copyright infringement?

Post by John McKenna » Mon Jul 24, 2017 12:53 am

soheil_hooshdaran wrote:What law does the downloading of a PDF-file of a copyrighted book, break?
It probably infringes copyright in a similar way that receiving stolen goods breaks the law.

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Re: Is it copyright infringement?

Post by soheil_hooshdaran » Mon Jul 24, 2017 4:01 pm

IM Jack Rudd wrote:I have friends for whom translation is a full-time job, but I suppose translation into English is a rather bigger market than translation into Farsi.
Friends in Iran?
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Re: Is it copyright infringement?

Post by soheil_hooshdaran » Mon Jul 24, 2017 4:04 pm

John McKenna wrote:
soheil_hooshdaran wrote:What law does the downloading of a PDF-file of a copyrighted book, break?
It probably infringes copyright in a similar way that receiving stolen goods breaks the law.
What if you have the printed book and just download the PDF?
The PDF is much easier to translate.

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Re: Is it copyright infringement?

Post by Alistair Campbell » Tue Jul 25, 2017 2:13 pm

soheil_hooshdaran wrote:
John McKenna wrote:
soheil_hooshdaran wrote:What law does the downloading of a PDF-file of a copyrighted book, break?
It probably infringes copyright in a similar way that receiving stolen goods breaks the law.
What if you have the printed book and just download the PDF?
The PDF is much easier to translate.
The slightly flippant answer to the original question might be the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988. I imagine the Berne Convention might be relevant too.

Reformatting and copying for personal use may be permitted. However...

Were I to own (legitimately) a Long Playing record on vinyl (grandad), I imagine I wouldn't be entitled to help myself to the same album on CD or MP3 (or any other new-fangled format). I might be entitled to make a cassette copy to play in my car. I might not be entitled to play it were I to have a passenger.

My suspicion is downloading a pdf would be a breach of copyright, unless you had the original author's permission. The other way around might be permitted - e.g. purchase a pdf then print it out - again for personal use only. Again, I suspect the degree to which certain acts are permitted may need to be tested in the courts.

Of course, I am not a lawyer, and nothing I say should be construed as legal advice, so I would refer the questioner to the remarks of the previous contributor, IM Rudd.

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Re: Is it copyright infringement?

Post by soheil_hooshdaran » Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:30 pm

There is no binding copyright law for foreigners in Iran, until you individually want to obey it.

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Re: Is it copyright infringement?

Post by soheil_hooshdaran » Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:31 pm

Anyway, thanks room!

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Re: Is it copyright infringement?

Post by soheil_hooshdaran » Thu Jul 27, 2017 4:26 pm

What if we copy so,e part of a book in our chess club, like training positions.

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Re: Is it copyright infringement?

Post by Roger de Coverly » Thu Jul 27, 2017 4:57 pm

soheil_hooshdaran wrote:What if we copy so,e part of a book in our chess club, like training positions.
You need to ask an Iranian law forum, not a British chess forum.

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Re: Is it copyright infringement?

Post by soheil_hooshdaran » Thu Jul 27, 2017 6:20 pm

Iranian law doesn't meet international law. I am asking about the copyright.

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Re: Is it copyright infringement?

Post by Alistair Campbell » Sat Aug 05, 2017 1:41 pm

soheil_hooshdaran wrote:Anyway, thanks room!
? What does "room" mean in this context?

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Re: Is it copyright infringement?

Post by soheil_hooshdaran » Sat Aug 05, 2017 8:02 pm

I mean the forumers.

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Re: Is it copyright infringement?

Post by soheil_hooshdaran » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:08 am

a British GM once came to Iran and a young man gave him one of his books to sign it.
After the sign, WGM Paridar paridar reprimaded the young man, saying the GM will be saddened (seeing hiis book printed and bined by a publisher in Iran without his knowledge. They man said he himself in aware of the fact.
Also some people say the reason the books are more expensive in the vest in that they get the money (that people of Iran and other non-copyright compliant countries would pay) from us (in west). Is that true?

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