2018 Altibox Norway

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Re: 2018 Altibox Norway

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Sun May 27, 2018 6:02 pm

There's a whoopsie! :D
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Re: 2018 Altibox Norway

Post by Tim Harding » Sun May 27, 2018 8:57 pm

Pairings for Round 1:
Carlsen v Caruana !!
Mamedyarov v MVL
Nakamura v Ding Liren
So v Karjakin
Anand v Aronian
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Re: 2018 Altibox Norway

Post by Chris Rice » Sun May 27, 2018 11:35 pm

Peter Doggers report on the blitz including what Wesley So gets for winning it:

"As the winner of the blitz, So was the only player who got to chose his pairing number. For the numbers one to five, the arbiters showed him his playing schedule, and in the end he went for number three. He explained his reasoning to Chess.com:

"Number one was an attractive option, but I didn't want to get two whites on the first two days. I don't want to have too many black games against strong opponents, and I also don't want to play the top three players on three days in a row. I think what I chose was more balanced."

The rest of the players moved "around" So's number, meaning that Nakamura and Anand took spots one and two, Carlsen four, and so on.

As a result of all this, there's a rather amazing coincidence: yet again Carlsen and Caruana meet each other in the first round of a super tournament. It's now the fifth round robin tournament in a row where this happens, after Grenke 2018, Wijk aan Zee 2017, London 2017 and the Sinquefield Cup 2017. (In between the last two, they met in round eight of the 2017 Chess.com Isle of Man tournament.) "

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Re: 2018 Altibox Norway

Post by NickFaulks » Mon May 28, 2018 12:14 pm

I've just noticed the time control.

"Time control
: 100 min. for 40 moves + 50 min. for 20 moves, + 15 min. for the rest of the game with an increment of 30 seconds per move, starting from move 61.

Participant is obliged to record the moves on the score-sheet, starting from the first move."

This makes no sense at all.
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Re: 2018 Altibox Norway

Post by JustinHorton » Mon May 28, 2018 3:25 pm

Tarjei says Caruana wanted to withdraw
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Re: 2018 Altibox Norway

Post by LawrenceCooper » Mon May 28, 2018 3:30 pm

JustinHorton wrote:
Mon May 28, 2018 3:25 pm
Tarjei says Caruana wanted to withdraw
Mamedyarov was/is also a doubt due to toothache. https://twitter.com/chess24com/status/1 ... 7294857216

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Re: 2018 Altibox Norway

Post by Alex Holowczak » Mon May 28, 2018 6:20 pm

NickFaulks wrote:
Mon May 28, 2018 12:14 pm
I've just noticed the time control.

"Time control: 100 min. for 40 moves + 50 min. for 20 moves, + 15 min. for the rest of the game with an increment of 30 seconds per move, starting from move 61.

Participant is obliged to record the moves on the score-sheet, starting from the first move."

This makes no sense at all.
Indeed, taken literally it would make it ineligible for FIDE-rating, for one thing.

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Re: 2018 Altibox Norway

Post by Roger de Coverly » Mon May 28, 2018 7:41 pm

NickFaulks wrote:
Mon May 28, 2018 12:14 pm
Participant is obliged to record the moves on the score-sheet, starting from the first move."

This makes no sense at all.
They would have to record the moves from move 61 as there's a 30 second increment. They can not record in the run up to move 40 and move 60 if they have less than 5 minute as there's no increment, but would have to update their scoresheets after the time control had been reached.

Increments from move 61 isn't that unusual, but normally it would be 40 moves in 120 followed by 20 in 60. Perhaps 61 is a misprint for 1.

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Re: 2018 Altibox Norway

Post by LawrenceCooper » Mon May 28, 2018 7:45 pm

Standard: 40 Moves in 100 Min. / 20 Moves in 50 Min. / 15 Min. 30 Sec. is the time limit quoted when registering the event to be FIDE rated: https://ratings.fide.com/tournament_det ... ent=187871

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Re: 2018 Altibox Norway

Post by NickFaulks » Mon May 28, 2018 8:32 pm

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Mon May 28, 2018 7:41 pm
Perhaps 61 is a misprint for 1.
That was one possible explanation, but it isn't.
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Re: 2018 Altibox Norway

Post by LawrenceCooper » Mon May 28, 2018 8:42 pm

Tim Harding wrote:
Sun May 27, 2018 8:57 pm
Pairings for Round 1:
Carlsen v Caruana !!
Mamedyarov v MVL
Nakamura v Ding Liren
So v Karjakin
Anand v Aronian
All draws with the exception of Carlsen-Caruana which ends in a 77 move win for white.

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Re: 2018 Altibox Norway

Post by LawrenceCooper » Tue May 29, 2018 6:09 pm

Five draws in round 2 with the round lasting just over two and a half hours.

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Re: 2018 Altibox Norway

Post by NickFaulks » Tue May 29, 2018 6:20 pm

LawrenceCooper wrote:
Tue May 29, 2018 6:09 pm
Five draws in round 2 with the round lasting just over two and a half hours.
Even a modern county match takes longer than that.
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Re: 2018 Altibox Norway

Post by Mick Norris » Tue May 29, 2018 9:40 pm

Pete Doggers reports round 1 and round 2

Chess Mind round 1 with some game analysis and round 2 with excellent quote on the pairings for round 3
Carlsen (1.5) - Aronian (1)
Vachier-Lagrave (1) - Caruana (.5)
Mamedyarov (1) - Karjakin (1) (The draw has probably already been agreed.)
Anand (1) - Ding Liren (1)
So (1) - Nakamura (1)
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Re: 2018 Altibox Norway

Post by David Robertson » Wed May 30, 2018 4:45 pm

Mamedyarov - Karjakin

DRAW :!: :!: :shock: :shock: :shock: