Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election? (Take 2)

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Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election?

Poll ended at Mon Oct 01, 2018 8:05 am

Arkady Dvorkovich
5
11%
Georgios Makropoulos
9
20%
Nigel Short
22
48%
None of the Above
10
22%
 
Total votes: 46

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election? (Take 2)

Post by Alex Holowczak » Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:40 am

Christopher Kreuzer wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:25 am
NickFaulks wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:06 am
So far as you can tell, scrutineers look positive for Dvorko.
Do you mean the voting is taking place and you are trying to read the body language of the scrutineers?
How is the voting taking place? Is it a card vote?
We voted for the scrutineers. Judging by who put their hand up for each candidate from the interested parties, and the final totals of those candidates, it looks like it will be a comfortable win for Dvorkovich.

I almost walked in the way of the Dewey-esque photograph of him being announced the winner during the coffee break that had no coffee.

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election? (Take 2)

Post by Brian Towers » Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:43 am

NickFaulks wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:39 am
May have been a coffee break, but no coffee or in fact any sustinence at all,
Perhaps not for the hoi poloi but somebody approached the chess.com camerawoman with a cup of coffee and told her there was a cup waiting for her on her chair.
Ah, but I was so much older then. I'm younger than that now.

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election? (Take 2)

Post by NickFaulks » Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:50 am

Christopher Kreuzer wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:25 am
Do you mean the voting is taking place and you are trying to read the body language of the scrutineers?
How is the voting taking place? Is it a card vote?
There was a vote to choose scrutineers, Even though they really are believed to be fair, it may be significant that a Dvorkovich supporter got over 100 votes. A conspicuous Makro supporter got only 60 something.

It is a secret ballot.

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election? (Take 2)

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:50 am

NickFaulks wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:39 am
May have been a coffee break, but no coffee or in fact any sustinence at all,
ChesscomNews on Twitter: "Turns out the coffee, tea, water and snacks had already been removed by hotel staff. A coffee break without coffee! Well then, let’s get this election party started."

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election? (Take 2)

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:54 am

NickFaulks wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:50 am
Christopher Kreuzer wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:25 am
Do you mean the voting is taking place and you are trying to read the body language of the scrutineers?
How is the voting taking place? Is it a card vote?
There was a vote to choose scrutineers, Even though they really are believed to be fair, it may be significant that a Dvorkovich supporter got over 100 votes. A conspicuous Makro supporter got only 60 something.

It is a secret ballot.
Oh, so the vote for scrutineers is like a (public) preview/exit poll for the actual election, unless people mislead by voting for one candidate in the scrutineer vote and for another in the secret ballot. (Any sign of the vote for Nigel?) When you say secret, is it voting slips that the delegates fold over and put in a box that is opened and counted by the scrutineers, or is it less or more 'high-tech' than that?

[EDIT: The ChesscomNews Twitter stream has good photos.]

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election? (Take 2)

Post by Paul Cooksey » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:10 pm

I guess more like an entry poll than an exit poll. My feeling is in a FIDE exit poll everyone will have voted for the winner...

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election? (Take 2)

Post by Alex Holowczak » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:14 pm

Huge round of applause for Dvorkovich as he leaves the podium. His speech included the promise of sponsorship from Renault and Gazprom, and a promise of a $5m per year FIDE budget.

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election? (Take 2)

Post by Brian Towers » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:15 pm

Cheeky start to Nigel's speech as he copies Kirsan's response to the Kasparov/Sinquefeld ticket at a previous election.
Ah, but I was so much older then. I'm younger than that now.

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election? (Take 2)

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:16 pm

Who is actually there in person at the Congress/Assembly/Election, as opposed to watching online?

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election? (Take 2)

Post by NickFaulks » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:18 pm

Christopher Kreuzer wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:54 am
When you say secret, is it voting slips that the delegates fold over and put in a box that is opened and counted by the scrutineers, or is it less or more 'high-tech' than that?
Lo-tech, seems to work.

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election? (Take 2)

Post by Andy Howie » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:19 pm

First two speeches have been Really good. I wonder of Makro can recover from the double blow of his meltdown over the Kremlin and Zurabs comment about Africa..

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election? (Take 2)

Post by Paul Cooksey » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:21 pm

I like the Short joke about Makroeconomics

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election? (Take 2)

Post by Brian Towers » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:22 pm

Bombshell! Short: I withdraw and support Dvorkovitch!
Ah, but I was so much older then. I'm younger than that now.

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election? (Take 2)

Post by Angus French » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:23 pm

Just switched on the video feed... Did Short say he was withdrawing and endorsing Dvorkovich?

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election? (Take 2)

Post by Alex Holowczak » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:23 pm

Short ended his speech by withdrawing his candidature and endorsed Dvorkovich to a booming round of applause in the room.

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