That would be my thoughtAlex Holowczak wrote: ↑Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:54 amAgreed. You could also take the view that because it is unclear to the players too, they are more inclined to play their games "properly", rather than play for a solid draw, because they cannot be certain of what will happen in the tie-break either.JustinHorton wrote: ↑Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:50 amI'm sure that's true, but what it is setting out to achieve does not appear to include "being less than opaque to the spectators".Alex Holowczak wrote: ↑Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:47 am
For what it's worth, I think the tie-break is very good at trying to achieve what it is setting out to achieve.
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Particularly given the pairing system employed?Jonathan Rogers wrote: ↑Fri Oct 05, 2018 9:09 amIt helps teams who played weaker opponents and racked up big scores, presumably.
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Is that actually practical given the complexity of the tie-break?Thomas Rendle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 05, 2018 9:07 amI'd be surprised if the team captains of the leading teams weren't tasked with keeping at least some eye on tiebreaks. I assume they could take that into account when instructing players on draws?
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Early disaster for White (who knew the King's Indian/Grunfeld bishop could do damage on d4?)
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I don't.Jonathan Rogers wrote: ↑Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:51 amI find myself somehow supporting China v USA. Do others feel the same way?
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Vaguely? You know what the relative tiebreak scores are before the round. You'll have played some of the same teams. Maybe keep an eye on the scores of 3 key matches for both sides. There is certainly plenty of time to wander around!JustinHorton wrote: ↑Fri Oct 05, 2018 9:11 amIs that actually practical given the complexity of the tie-break?Thomas Rendle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 05, 2018 9:07 amI'd be surprised if the team captains of the leading teams weren't tasked with keeping at least some eye on tiebreaks. I assume they could take that into account when instructing players on draws?
A quick check of scores after the time control is probably the most useful though.
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I did wonder why we had an all round genius who is no longer an active player as captain. I imagine he is calculating the tie breaks in his headJustinHorton wrote: ↑Fri Oct 05, 2018 9:11 amIs that actually practical given the complexity of the tie-break?Thomas Rendle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 05, 2018 9:07 amI'd be surprised if the team captains of the leading teams weren't tasked with keeping at least some eye on tiebreaks. I assume they could take that into account when instructing players on draws?
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Caruana - Ding drawn (when did Ding last lose a game at classical time control?)
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Might be 9 August 2017, GiriMick Norris wrote: ↑Fri Oct 05, 2018 9:34 amCaruana - Ding drawn (when did Ding last lose a game at classical time control?)
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Big chance for Russia women on board 4
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Back on England watch and David has a very comfortable position, with the other 3 pretty close to equal. I wonder if Luke will start to press with Black - not easy to see how but he does like to try!
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Yes, that's the problem.Jonathan Rogers wrote: ↑Fri Oct 05, 2018 9:09 amIt helps teams who played weaker opponents and racked up big scores, presumably.
No, in my opinion.JustinHorton wrote: ↑Fri Oct 05, 2018 9:11 amIs that actually practical given the complexity of the tie-break?Thomas Rendle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 05, 2018 9:07 amI'd be surprised if the team captains of the leading teams weren't tasked with keeping at least some eye on tiebreaks. I assume they could take that into account when instructing players on draws?
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Is it possible to be entirely accurate? No! But surely it's possible to have a better answer when a player asks than 'absolutely no idea' - even if the answer is in fact 'too close to call'.
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You have to know the results of all 10 of your previous opponents in that round. Some of them aren't even in your playing hall. Then you need to keep an eye on all 10 of the opponents of the teams you may end up tied with and the matches they are playing in Round 11; OK, there are some mutual opponents so this number may come down a bit. The amount of time you'd need to spend working all that out to get an answer that is probably only slightly more accurate than shrugging your shoulders doesn't sound like fun to me; and I'm the sort of person that job would normally get delegated to...Thomas Rendle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 05, 2018 9:56 amIs it possible to be entirely accurate? No! But surely it's possible to have a better answer when a player asks than 'absolutely no idea' - even if the answer is in fact 'too close to call'.