Repercussions / Fallout from FIDE Elections?
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"Justin, the pertinent question is whether Arkady works for Vladimir."
No it isn't - it is the question you were asked. Do you still claim you are independent of all the candidates?
This reminds me of when Paxman asked Michael Howard a question, who replied, "That's not the question" Er, yes it is.
No it isn't - it is the question you were asked. Do you still claim you are independent of all the candidates?
This reminds me of when Paxman asked Michael Howard a question, who replied, "That's not the question" Er, yes it is.
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It has been in the past, the English arbiters vetoed from invitations to the Istanbul Olympiad of 2012 being a case in point. The perpetrator of that was present in Batumi, as a Makro supporter. For that matter he banned one of the English Ladies team from competing in Turkish events because of criticisms made of the organisation of a championship event.Alex Holowczak wrote: ↑Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:46 pmbut it would seem to suggest that England would not be the victim of any "mean-spirited vindictiveness".
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Let's hope Dvorkovich and Short display a grace and magnanimity in victory, eschewing "mean-spirited vindictiveness" towards the ECF, while patiently noting the churlishness of the Board, and the defamatory comments directed at them from supporters of the defeated.Alex Holowczak wrote: ↑Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:46 pmNigel said "In this administration 'gens una sumus' only applies to those who voted for the administration. Everyone else gets shafted. This mean-spirited vindictiveness has to stop". England did not vote for the new administration, but it would seem to suggest that England would not be the victim of any "mean-spirited vindictiveness"
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Well, it is a pertinent question, even if it is John who is asking it.Kevin Thurlow wrote: ↑Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:53 pm"Justin, the pertinent question is whether Arkady works for Vladimir."
No it isn't
A much over-rated interview that, in which Paxman elicited no more information in asking a question eighteen times than he would have with one-sixth of that number. It was all about his ego.Kevin Thurlow wrote: ↑Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:53 pmThis reminds me of when Paxman asked Michael Howard a question, who replied, "That's not the question" Er, yes it is.
In the latter's case at least this would require an abrupt alteration in personality rare in men in their fifties.David Robertson wrote: ↑Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:05 pmLet's hope Dvorkovich and Short display a grace and magnanimity in victory
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"Do you play chess?"
"Yes, but I prefer a game with a better chance of cheating."
lostontime.blogspot.com
"Yes, but I prefer a game with a better chance of cheating."
lostontime.blogspot.com
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So we get no respite from your 'personality' either. Must be something to do with 1965JustinHorton wrote: ↑Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:30 pman abrupt alteration in personality rare in men in their fifties
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I won't repeat myself.Kevin Thurlow wrote: ↑Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:53 pmDo you still claim you are independent of all the candidates?
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Of course John isn't independent of all the candidates. We've all read the thread, and can see the questions he raises and those he studiously avoids. Its just that he has a different understanding of independent to the majority of participants on the thread.
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JT if you do not believe me, I cannot help you further. On any definition of "independence" there should be no beneficial connection between the parties. Hence proving independence is equivalent to proving a negative - a fruitless exercise. To move the discussion forwards, why don't you tell us why you favour Arkady Dvorkovic?
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By any definition, Jon Melsom is independent of Malcolm Pein. That is unless he's been moonlighting as a CSC tutor. Someone who runs conferences for Malcolm and in the past has been a named official of CSC doesn't have the same degree of independence.John Foley wrote: ↑Sun Oct 07, 2018 10:49 pmOn any definition of "independence" there should be no beneficial connection between the parties.
To use an expression from over thirty years ago, is Dvorkovic "a man you can do business with"?
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Pending further evidence, that is my view.Roger de Coverly wrote: ↑Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:20 pmTo use an expression from over thirty years ago, is Dvorkovic "a man you can do business with"?
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This is of course right, but not for the first time I fond myself wondering why it has taken so long for people to notice that Malcolm has cronies, that too many people in ECF positions are beholden to him and so on.Roger de Coverly wrote: ↑Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:20 pmBy any definition, Jon Melsom is independent of Malcolm Pein. That is unless he's been moonlighting as a CSC tutor. Someone who runs conferences for Malcolm and in the past has been a named official of CSC doesn't have the same degree of independence.John Foley wrote: ↑Sun Oct 07, 2018 10:49 pmOn any definition of "independence" there should be no beneficial connection between the parties.
It's like the Englush chess community sees nothing until somebody takes the wrong side in FIDE politics and then suddenly everybody can see them clearly, like putting on the sunglasses in They Live.
He might or might not be, but what is not plausible is that he was sent into FIDE to clean it up, which we can say on plenty of evidence already available to us.
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Perhaps you're right, but a cleaner FIDE may still be a side effect of his plans. For instance, one of his very first acts was to announce that the proxy system has come to an end. Furthermore, he has said quite explicitly that starting now the Statutes will be respected, a concept with which Makro has never been on speaking terms.JustinHorton wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 7:00 amHe might or might not be, but what is not plausible is that he was sent into FIDE to clean it up
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I am not supporting any candidate and if you read the thread that would be obvious. I was hoping that somewhere amidst the equivocation and condescension you might explain why your favoured candidate was a good choice. Nobody is perfect but however dark an image of Arkady you choose to paint, I don't see moral rectitude in the alternatives.
I am not supporting any candidate and if you read the thread that would be obvious. I was hoping that somewhere amidst the equivocation and condescension you might explain why your favoured candidate was a good choice. Nobody is perfect but however dark an image of Arkady you choose to paint, I don't see moral rectitude in the alternatives.
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Not that anyone's really noticed, but the position of England's FIDE delegate is up for re-election. There is only one named candidate.J T Melsom wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:25 amI am not supporting any candidate and if you read the thread that would be obvious.