Candidates 2019

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LawrenceCooper
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Re: Candidates 2019

Post by LawrenceCooper » Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:10 pm

A point swing in the game between first and second with Goryachkina winning (now 5/6) to go 1.5 ahead of Dzagnidze & Lagno. Everyone else on -1.

Keith Arkell
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Re: Candidates 2019

Post by Keith Arkell » Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:25 pm

Jonathan Rogers wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:16 pm
Incidentally Tan's defence of that ending looked pretty bad, and the game can be added to the list of those which could not be mistaken for an elite level game.

Not that it was a trivial defence. Keith, give away your trade secrets for nothing - how should Black plan to defend from move 28 ?
Presuming you mean this Keith, there is no simply explained answer to that, but on move 28 I cannot see any reason why Black can't just play the obvious ...Re8. To easily draw such positions you need to know a number of principles; at which point you've set me up nicely for a self plug 8) I explain those principles in the soon to be released 'Arkell's Endings' :D

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Re: Candidates 2019

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:23 am

LawrenceCooper wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:10 pm
A point swing in the game between first and second with Goryachkina winning (now 5/6) to go 1.5 ahead of Dzagnidze & Lagno. Everyone else on -1.
That swing seemed significant, perhaps a bit like the one between Kramnik and Caruana in round 4 of the last candidates.

(What am I supposed to call the last candidates? THE candidates (meaning the women's doesn't count?)? The men's candidates (but it is not so restricted)? The open candidates (which makes it sound like anyone could have entered?)

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Re: Candidates 2019

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:24 am

Keith Arkell wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:25 pm
Jonathan Rogers wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:16 pm
Incidentally Tan's defence of that ending looked pretty bad, and the game can be added to the list of those which could not be mistaken for an elite level game.

Not that it was a trivial defence. Keith, give away your trade secrets for nothing - how should Black plan to defend from move 28 ?
Presuming you mean this Keith, there is no simply explained answer to that, but on move 28 I cannot see any reason why Black can't just play the obvious ...Re8. To easily draw such positions you need to know a number of principles; at which point you've set me up nicely for a self plug 8) I explain those principles in the soon to be released 'Arkell's Endings' :D
plug away, who is the publisher and when it is out?

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Re: Candidates 2019

Post by Mick Norris » Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:37 am

Jonathan Rogers wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:23 am
LawrenceCooper wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:10 pm
A point swing in the game between first and second with Goryachkina winning (now 5/6) to go 1.5 ahead of Dzagnidze & Lagno. Everyone else on -1.
That swing seemed significant, perhaps a bit like the one between Kramnik and Caruana in round 4 of the last candidates.

(What am I supposed to call the last candidates? THE candidates (meaning the women's doesn't count?)? The men's candidates (but it is not so restricted)? The open candidates (which makes it sound like anyone could have entered?)
I have in my head that +4 has been enough to win in this format, although I know it is new to the Women's qualification process, and with fewer draws that might not necessarily be the case here

Given the first tiebreak is results of games between players involved in the tie, and Goryachkina has beaten both players on +1, she might be 8 draws away from a WC match; long way to go though
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Re: Candidates 2019

Post by LawrenceCooper » Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:27 pm

Three draws today and a win for Gunina against Tan.

Keith Arkell
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Re: Candidates 2019

Post by Keith Arkell » Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:58 pm

Jonathan Rogers wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:24 am
Keith Arkell wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:25 pm
Jonathan Rogers wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:16 pm
Incidentally Tan's defence of that ending looked pretty bad, and the game can be added to the list of those which could not be mistaken for an elite level game.

Not that it was a trivial defence. Keith, give away your trade secrets for nothing - how should Black plan to defend from move 28 ?
Presuming you mean this Keith, there is no simply explained answer to that, but on move 28 I cannot see any reason why Black can't just play the obvious ...Re8. To easily draw such positions you need to know a number of principles; at which point you've set me up nicely for a self plug 8) I explain those principles in the soon to be released 'Arkell's Endings' :D
plug away, who is the publisher and when it is out?
'Ginger GM' and soon after I've completed writing it!

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Re: Candidates 2019

Post by David Robertson » Sun Jun 09, 2019 1:10 pm

Muzychuk A - Muzychuk M just started

Predictions? :D

Kevin Thurlow
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Re: Candidates 2019

Post by Kevin Thurlow » Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:10 pm

"Muzychuk A - Muzychuk M just started

Predictions? "

Draw (and I haven't looked to see if it's happened already...)

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Re: Candidates 2019

Post by David Sedgwick » Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:48 pm

Kevin Thurlow wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:10 pm
"Muzychuk A - Muzychuk M just started

Predictions? "

Draw (and I haven't looked to see if it's happened already...)
It has duly happened. 28 moves and 25 to 30 minutes.

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Re: Candidates 2019

Post by Roger de Coverly » Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:06 pm

David Sedgwick wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:48 pm
It has duly happened. 28 moves and 25 to 30 minutes.
I suppose the clock times indicate that both players were familiar with the variation, as otherwise it looked like a competitive game.

It's been played before.

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Re: Candidates 2019

Post by Leonard Barden » Sun Jun 09, 2019 4:41 pm

Goryachkina wins again, extends candidates lead to two points with six rounds left.

She has also jumped to No3 in the live ratings, with only Hou Yifan and Ju Wenjun ahead of her.

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Re: Candidates 2019

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:55 pm

I notice that no one ever told me how I should refer to the open/men/THE candidates - but anyway, i don't think anyone ever made +5 in the modern 2013-onwards version, albeit that Topalov made +6 in the same format at San Luis 2005.

I would expect Goryachkina to go to +6 and similarly retire, if she is permitted to do so.

With this momentum, she must have a good chance v Ju Wenjun as well. Most of her wins have been convincing, too - technical perhaps, but that is an observation rather than criticism.

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Re: Candidates 2019

Post by NickFaulks » Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:09 pm

Jonathan Rogers wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:55 pm
I would expect Goryachkina to go to +6 and similarly retire, if she is permitted to do so.
Probably I'm being dim, but I don't know what you mean.

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Re: Candidates 2019

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:25 pm

NickFaulks wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:09 pm
Jonathan Rogers wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:55 pm
I would expect Goryachkina to go to +6 and similarly retire, if she is permitted to do so.
Probably I'm being dim, but I don't know what you mean.
If she goes even further ahead, her opponents might start offering her short draws to save their energy for the other games, playing for second or third, etc.

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