3rd Grand Prix Series KO 4 - 18 Nov 2019, Hamburg
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3rd Grand Prix Series KO 4 - 18 Nov 2019, Hamburg
The line up for this tournament appears to be:
1 Alexander Grischuk (Russia)
2 Ian Nepomniachtchi (Russia)
3 Maxime Vachier-Lagrave (France)
4 Radoslaw Wojtaszek (Poland)
5 Hikaru Nakamura (USA)
6 Peter Svidler (Russia)
7 Daniil Dubov (Russia)
8 Wei Yi (China)
9 Veselin Topalov (Bulgaria)
10 Yu Yangyi (China)
11 Jan-Krzysztof Duda (Poland)
12 Teimour Radjabov (Azerbaijan)
13 Nikita Vitiugov (Russia)
14 Harikrishna Pentala (India)
15 David Navara (Czech Republic)
16 Dmitry Jakovenko (Russia)
I can't seem to find any info on who is playing who or when exactly the first round is but it looks like a cracking line up!
1 Alexander Grischuk (Russia)
2 Ian Nepomniachtchi (Russia)
3 Maxime Vachier-Lagrave (France)
4 Radoslaw Wojtaszek (Poland)
5 Hikaru Nakamura (USA)
6 Peter Svidler (Russia)
7 Daniil Dubov (Russia)
8 Wei Yi (China)
9 Veselin Topalov (Bulgaria)
10 Yu Yangyi (China)
11 Jan-Krzysztof Duda (Poland)
12 Teimour Radjabov (Azerbaijan)
13 Nikita Vitiugov (Russia)
14 Harikrishna Pentala (India)
15 David Navara (Czech Republic)
16 Dmitry Jakovenko (Russia)
I can't seem to find any info on who is playing who or when exactly the first round is but it looks like a cracking line up!
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Re: 3rd Grand Prix Series KO 4 - 18 Nov 2019, Hamburg
Opening ceremony today, so presumably the pairings will be known after that; I'm not sure if it is the 1 v 16, 2 v 15 etc format?
Games start tomorrow 3 pm Hamburg time
Rest day Thursday 14th
Games start tomorrow 3 pm Hamburg time
Rest day Thursday 14th
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Re: 3rd Grand Prix Series KO 4 - 18 Nov 2019, Hamburg
Vachier-Lagrave - Wei Yi
Nakamura - Topalov
Navara - Vitiugov
Wojtaszek - Grischuk
Radjabov - Dubov
Svidler - Harikrishna
Jakovenko - Yu Yangyi
Duda - Nepomniachtchi
Nakamura - Topalov
Navara - Vitiugov
Wojtaszek - Grischuk
Radjabov - Dubov
Svidler - Harikrishna
Jakovenko - Yu Yangyi
Duda - Nepomniachtchi
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Re: 3rd Grand Prix Series KO 4 - 18 Nov 2019, Hamburg
Pairings look ok from Shak's viewpoint I think, given that Wojtaszek & Grischuk can't both overtake him
Current standings
10 - Shak, Grischuk each with only 1 event left
9 - Nepo with 2 events left
8 - MVL with 2 events left
5 - Wojtaszek with 2 events left
Top 2 qualify for the candidates
Current standings
10 - Shak, Grischuk each with only 1 event left
9 - Nepo with 2 events left
8 - MVL with 2 events left
5 - Wojtaszek with 2 events left
Top 2 qualify for the candidates
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Re: 3rd Grand Prix Series KO 4 - 18 Nov 2019, Hamburg
For what it's worth, there were only 4 seeds.Mick Norris wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:19 amOpening ceremony today, so presumably the pairings will be known after that; I'm not sure if it is the 1 v 16, 2 v 15 etc format?
If you want to know the format of a tournament, wikipedia is normally the best place to go: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIDE_Gran ... ember_2019
Orgnaisations tend not to clutter their websites with that level of technical detail, because only hardy souls normally have an interest ... and they worked out to go to wikipedia long ago.
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Re: 3rd Grand Prix Series KO 4 - 18 Nov 2019, Hamburg
Maybe, but World Chess / Agon "tend not to clutter their website" with any useful information.Alex Holowczak wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:52 pmOrganisations tend not to clutter their websites with that level of technical detail, because only hardy souls normally have an interest ... and they worked out to go to wikipedia long ago.
They certainly don't tell you how to cancel a subscription to them, as has been explained in another thread
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Re: 3rd Grand Prix Series KO 4 - 18 Nov 2019, Hamburg
Results of the first two games:
Vachier-Lagrave - Wei Yi 1.5-0.5
Nakamura - Topalov 0.5-1.5
Navara - Vitiugov 1-1
Wojtaszek - Grischuk 1-1
Radjabov - Dubov 1-1
Svidler - Harikrishna 1.5-0.5
Jakovenko - Yu Yangyi 1-1
Duda - Nepomniachtchi 1.5-0.5
So Nepo is out and his chances of qualifying for the Candidates have been dealt a serious blow. So I guess we have to take that into account with what he tweeted out next:
"Hamburg Grand Prix organisation recipe from @theworldchess: choose the most expensive and nice hotel and the most cheap and unsuitable playing venue. At least I rejoice I shouldn't go there anymore. Good luck to remaining players"
In another tweet Peter Heine Nielsen proposed a way to stop short draws:
"People offer draws to avoid risk. Add risk to the draw offer! E.g. a 10 minute penalty for offering a draw. Or the more controversial, allow the opponent to play on with either colour."
Lev Aronian approved:
"Absolutely brilliant idea to allow the player who got offered a draw to pick side! Easy to implement and very interesting."
While Anish Giri thought the problem lay elsewhere:
" I think draw offer is ok, it is accepting the draw that is a problem. Ban draw accepting."
Vachier-Lagrave - Wei Yi 1.5-0.5
Nakamura - Topalov 0.5-1.5
Navara - Vitiugov 1-1
Wojtaszek - Grischuk 1-1
Radjabov - Dubov 1-1
Svidler - Harikrishna 1.5-0.5
Jakovenko - Yu Yangyi 1-1
Duda - Nepomniachtchi 1.5-0.5
So Nepo is out and his chances of qualifying for the Candidates have been dealt a serious blow. So I guess we have to take that into account with what he tweeted out next:
"Hamburg Grand Prix organisation recipe from @theworldchess: choose the most expensive and nice hotel and the most cheap and unsuitable playing venue. At least I rejoice I shouldn't go there anymore. Good luck to remaining players"
In another tweet Peter Heine Nielsen proposed a way to stop short draws:
"People offer draws to avoid risk. Add risk to the draw offer! E.g. a 10 minute penalty for offering a draw. Or the more controversial, allow the opponent to play on with either colour."
Lev Aronian approved:
"Absolutely brilliant idea to allow the player who got offered a draw to pick side! Easy to implement and very interesting."
While Anish Giri thought the problem lay elsewhere:
" I think draw offer is ok, it is accepting the draw that is a problem. Ban draw accepting."
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Re: 3rd Grand Prix Series KO 4 - 18 Nov 2019, Hamburg
Does anyone know what is wrong with the venue?Chris Rice wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:46 pm"Hamburg Grand Prix organisation recipe from @theworldchess: choose the most expensive and nice hotel and the most cheap and unsuitable playing venue.
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Re: 3rd Grand Prix Series KO 4 - 18 Nov 2019, Hamburg
Chess-News.ru has a reports poor lighting again, and Sosonko comparing the venue to a bomb shelter.
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Re: 3rd Grand Prix Series KO 4 - 18 Nov 2019, Hamburg
WorldChess making friends with their response...Chris Rice wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:46 pm"Hamburg Grand Prix organisation recipe from @theworldchess: choose the most expensive and nice hotel and the most cheap and unsuitable playing venue.
(“Sorry you lost bro.”)
And Nepo hitting back...
(“Fortunately, I’m not your bro, Mr. Golden Standard of pathetic organisation...”)
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Re: 3rd Grand Prix Series KO 4 - 18 Nov 2019, Hamburg
As raised by Paul McKeown elsewhere on this site, they also get stick for attempting auto renewals of their pass for last year's World Championship access.
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Re: 3rd Grand Prix Series KO 4 - 18 Nov 2019, Hamburg
Yes, that leaves Nepo on 9 after 2 events, but with his win in regulation, MVL is already on 10 alongside Shak & GrischukChris Rice wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:46 pmResults of the first two games:
Vachier-Lagrave - Wei Yi 1.5-0.5
Nakamura - Topalov 0.5-1.5
Navara - Vitiugov 1-1
Wojtaszek - Grischuk 1-1
Radjabov - Dubov 1-1
Svidler - Harikrishna 1.5-0.5
Jakovenko - Yu Yangyi 1-1
Duda - Nepomniachtchi 1.5-0.5
So Nepo is out and his chances of qualifying for the Candidates have been dealt a serious blow.
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Re: 3rd Grand Prix Series KO 4 - 18 Nov 2019, Hamburg
Vachier-Lagrave - Wei Yi 1.5-0.5
Nakamura - Topalov 0.5-1.5
Navara - Vitiugov 3-1
Wojtaszek - Grischuk 1.5-2.5
Radjabov - Dubov 3.5-4.5
Svidler - Harikrishna 1.5-0.5
Jakovenko - Yu Yangyi 1.5-2.5
Duda - Nepomniachtchi 1.5-0.5
Grischuk now leads the GP on 11 points, but is in his last event
Nakamura - Topalov 0.5-1.5
Navara - Vitiugov 3-1
Wojtaszek - Grischuk 1.5-2.5
Radjabov - Dubov 3.5-4.5
Svidler - Harikrishna 1.5-0.5
Jakovenko - Yu Yangyi 1.5-2.5
Duda - Nepomniachtchi 1.5-0.5
Grischuk now leads the GP on 11 points, but is in his last event
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Re: 3rd Grand Prix Series KO 4 - 18 Nov 2019, Hamburg
Vachier-Lagrave - Topalov
Navara - Grischuk
Dubov - Svidler
Yu Yangyi - Duda
Navara - Grischuk
Dubov - Svidler
Yu Yangyi - Duda
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Re: 3rd Grand Prix Series KO 4 - 18 Nov 2019, Hamburg
It does look very sturdy...Paul Cooksey wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:46 pmChess-News.ru has a reports poor lighting again, and Sosonko comparing the venue to a bomb shelter.