Direct Members’ Representatives election

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Tim Spanton
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Re: Direct Members’ Representatives election

Post by Tim Spanton » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:12 pm

Tim Spanton wrote:
Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:00 pm
John Reyes wrote:
Wed Aug 19, 2020 3:35 pm
Nick Grey wrote:
Wed Aug 19, 2020 3:19 pm
Is it too much to ask for the counts?
The ECF will Published it in due course
In due course? For most elections that means when the winners are announced.
To put it another way: countries such as the Soviet Union decide the winners first and announce the results later

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Re: Direct Members’ Representatives election

Post by Nick Grey » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:15 pm

Or after recounts? elections in the chess world

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Re: Direct Members’ Representatives election

Post by NickFaulks » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:19 pm

Tim Spanton wrote:
Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:00 pm
In due course? For most elections that means when the winners are announced.
I suggest we give them a week and then demand that the full results be released. Five Council members can do that.
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Re: Direct Members’ Representatives election

Post by J T Melsom » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:30 pm

There are six members of Council who could ask for publication of their own election result.

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Re: Direct Members’ Representatives election

Post by Roger de Coverly » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:33 pm

NickFaulks wrote:
Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:19 pm
I suggest we give them a week and then demand that the full results be released.
I thought the logic behind the decision was to avoid embarrassment to those not elected by revealing how badly they had scored. By the same logic perhaps the grades and games of those graded below 50 should never be published.

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Re: Direct Members’ Representatives election

Post by J T Melsom » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:38 pm

The people with low grades deserve rather more respect than that I think. There are more ways to measure the contribution of people to the chess community than chess grade.

In any case I'm not sure the logic has been fully explained - although it was pointed out that other organisations take a similar approach, so it isn't simply a whim of those responsible in the ECF.

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Re: Direct Members’ Representatives election

Post by Nick Grey » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:41 pm

logic is unless we know the counts it was pointless

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Re: Direct Members’ Representatives election

Post by John Reyes » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:50 pm

All I know is how many people have voted and that all I know
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Re: Direct Members’ Representatives election

Post by Ian Thompson » Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:13 pm

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:33 pm
By the same logic perhaps the grades and games of those graded below 50 should never be published.
The ECF already does that sort of thing - anyone with a grade that is calculated to be negative gets a grade of 0. There are currently 66 players with a published grade of 0. It's possible, of course, that some of them had a calculated grade of 0.

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Re: Direct Members’ Representatives election

Post by JustinHorton » Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:39 pm

J T Melsom wrote:
Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:38 pm
The people with low grades deserve rather more respect than that I think. There are more ways to measure the contribution of people to the chess community than chess grade.
I seem to remember suggesting that the player of the year award should go to whoever had the lowest grade
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Re: Direct Members’ Representatives election

Post by Michael Farthing » Thu Aug 20, 2020 4:19 pm

A statement about the decision not to publish detailed votes for the direct members' elections has now appeared on the ECF website:
https://www.englishchess.org.uk/dmr-elections-footnote/

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Re: Direct Members’ Representatives election

Post by Mick Norris » Thu Aug 20, 2020 4:21 pm

Thanks Michael; would it be possible to give the total number of votes cast so we can see how many Members voted in each category?
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Re: Direct Members’ Representatives election

Post by Kevin Thurlow » Thu Aug 20, 2020 4:33 pm

"the majority were happy with publication, there were some who said that they did not want this and would not have stood without that assurance."

That is interesting.

Anyway, I hope the people who "lost" will not feel discouraged.

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Re: Direct Members’ Representatives election

Post by Nick Grey » Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:07 pm

Thanks Michael. I hope direct members reps consult on October matters.

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Re: Direct Members’ Representatives election

Post by Adam Raoof » Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:12 pm

which candidates did not want the voting figures published?
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