Queen's Birthday Honours 2020

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Re: Kevin Charles Staveley BEM

Post by Roger de Coverly » Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:50 pm

David Sedgwick wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:45 pm
I haven't counted Murray Chandler, as New Zealand has a separate honours system.
According to a wiki page, Bob Wade got an OBE in 1979 (UK list?)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Wa ... ss_player)

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Re: Kevin Charles Staveley BEM

Post by NickFaulks » Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:00 pm

Simon Rogers wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:47 pm
Is the Bermudian Nick Faulks?
I'd say my chances are zero at best.
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Re: Queen's Birthday Honours 2020

Post by Simon Rogers » Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:02 pm

The Englishman who has an MBE is Nigel Short.
I think he mentioned it also, when he played a group of us Lancastrians in a simul at Blackburn a number of years ago.
I was the second last to finish after nearly four hours.
I played a dodgy opening but fought back and missed a draw in the endgame.
Nigel was very complimentary after and said that I was 'very tenacious'.
I would like to post the game on the forum sometime in the future if that's ok with you all.

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Re: Queen's Birthday Honours 2020

Post by Kevin Thurlow » Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:03 pm

How about Mike Truran? (not chess from memory). Russell Finch (Guernsey) got an OBE for his genial and benevolent work as a judge.

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Re: Kevin Charles Staveley BEM

Post by John Upham » Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:08 pm

David Sedgwick wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:45 pm
John Upham wrote:
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Richard Bates wrote:
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Not sure if this is a genuine question, or a wind up...?
Wind up : good spot !
Quiz Question: Name the last five people, prior to Kevin Staveley, to be honoured for Services to Chess.

Clue: They comprise an Englishman, a Scotsman, a Bermudian, and two Gibraltarians. I haven't counted Murray Chandler, as New Zealand has a separate honours system.
I've added

Bob Wade, OBE, 1979
Nigel Short MBE, 1999
Stephen Taylor, MBE, 2011
Brian Callaghan OBE, 2012

to this list so far. Apologies for missing them out. More speed less haste !
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Re: Queen's Birthday Honours 2020

Post by Leonard Barden » Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:15 pm

For his outstanding contributions to his country Alexander was awarded an OBE in 1946, a CBE in 1955, and a CMG in 1970.

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Re: Queen's Birthday Honours 2020

Post by John Upham » Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:27 pm

Was the Bermudian Larry Ebbin or Nigel Freeman?

Struggling a little with the final one on DSs list.
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Re: Queen's Birthday Honours 2020

Post by Nick Ivell » Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:01 pm

We seem to be a little short of knights.

Can I nominate Sir Leonard Barden?

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Re: Queen's Birthday Honours 2020

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:22 pm

Simon Rogers wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:02 pm
I would like to post the game on the forum sometime in the future if that's ok with you all.
Don't see why anyone would object tbh :)
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Re: Queen's Birthday Honours 2020

Post by Roger de Coverly » Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:25 pm

Nick Ivell wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:01 pm
We seem to be a little short of knights.
There's Sir Peter Swinnerton-Dyer whose name used to be attached to some theory in the Ponziani alongside his Bridge, Maths and administrative achievements. He was hereditary though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Swinnerton-Dyer

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Re: Queen's Birthday Honours 2020

Post by Kevin Thurlow » Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:29 pm

"Can I nominate Sir Leonard Barden?"

Good idea - https://www.gov.uk/honours tells you what to do.

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Re: Queen's Birthday Honours 2020

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:17 pm

I was thinking that the lament over the past 20 years of a (relative) lack of honours for chess players and organisers seems to pass over the fact that the longest period of no honours was in fact between 1985 and 1999 (Keene and Short). Was there a reason for no honours in those 14 years? Or is the history more nuanced than that?

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Re: Queen's Birthday Honours 2020

Post by Paul Cooksey » Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:24 pm

Presumably a combination of Milner-Barry's retirement administering the honours system and the embarrassment of an honour going to Keene made those involved less favourably disposed towards chess.

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Re: Kevin Charles Staveley BEM

Post by David Sedgwick » Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:50 pm

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:50 pm
David Sedgwick wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:45 pm
I haven't counted Murray Chandler, as New Zealand has a separate honours system.
According to a wiki page, Bob Wade got an OBE in 1979 (UK list?)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Wa ... ss_player)
The separate New Zealand system is of more recent vintage.

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Re: Kevin Charles Staveley BEM

Post by David Sedgwick » Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:02 pm

David Sedgwick wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:45 pm
Quiz Question: Name the last five people, prior to Kevin Staveley, to be honoured for Services to Chess.

Clue: They comprise an Englishman, a Scotsman, a Bermudian, and two Gibraltarians. I haven't counted Murray Chandler, as New Zealand has a separate honours system.
John Upham wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:08 pm
I've added

Bob Wade, OBE, 1979
Nigel Short MBE, 1999
Stephen Taylor, MBE, 2011
John Newling Cloake OBE, 2012
Brian Callagahan OBE, 2012

to this list so far. Apologies for missing them out. More speed less haste !
Messrs Short, Taylor and Callaghan are three of my five. I had never heard of John Newling Cloake.

That leaves a Bermudian and a Gibraltarian,
John Upham wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:27 pm
Was the Bermudian Larry Ebbin or Nigel Freeman?
Yes, it was one of those two.