Nigel Short is on the mend

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Roger de Coverly
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Re: Nigel Short is on the mend

Post by Roger de Coverly » Wed Jan 05, 2022 5:14 pm

Chris Rice wrote:
Wed Jan 05, 2022 3:55 pm

So on the evidence it looks like its been a tragedy for the kid who was on the verge of the win of his life.
Nigel has played the 3. .. h6 idea in the Tarrasch French before, losing to Gary Lane in the Calvia Olympiad for example. Early play may have been influenced by pre-game research.

A phone in a bag is out of use for practical purposes, unless the bag goes to the refreshment area or the opponent spends lengthy periods away from the board and no one else is watching.

Migel himself once lost by failing to completely switch off a phone. Some phones can be suprisingly tricky to get them from off = standby to off = off.

Matt Bridgeman

Re: Nigel Short is on the mend

Post by Matt Bridgeman » Wed Jan 05, 2022 5:39 pm

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Wed Jan 05, 2022 5:14 pm
Chris Rice wrote:
Wed Jan 05, 2022 3:55 pm

So on the evidence it looks like its been a tragedy for the kid who was on the verge of the win of his life.
Nigel has played the 3. .. h6 idea in the Tarrasch French before, losing to Gary Lane in the Calvia Olympiad for example. Early play may have been influenced by pre-game research.

A phone in a bag is out of use for practical purposes, unless the bag goes to the refreshment area or the opponent spends lengthy periods away from the board and no one else is watching.

Migel himself once lost by failing to completely switch off a phone. Some phones can be suprisingly tricky to get them from off = standby to off = off.
I’m doubt it here, but a phone in a bag isn’t necessarily out of use if you’re using a spyware blue tooth invisible ear piece via the phone, having live board engine responses fed to by an accomplice.

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Re: Nigel Short is on the mend

Post by Roger de Coverly » Wed Jan 05, 2022 5:52 pm

Matt Bridgeman wrote:
Wed Jan 05, 2022 5:39 pm
I’m doubt it here, but a phone in a bag isn’t necessarily out of use if you’re using a spyware blue tooth invisible ear piece via the phone, having live board engine responses fed to by an accomplice.
Imposition of delays seems to have gone out of fashion, but don't these spyware technologies suggest the use of transmission delays on live coverage? If sites like chessbomb, chess.com or chess24 are supplying live analysis, you don't want the players to have easy access to them during the game.

Matt Bridgeman

Re: Nigel Short is on the mend

Post by Matt Bridgeman » Wed Jan 05, 2022 6:26 pm

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Wed Jan 05, 2022 5:52 pm
Matt Bridgeman wrote:
Wed Jan 05, 2022 5:39 pm
I’m doubt it here, but a phone in a bag isn’t necessarily out of use if you’re using a spyware blue tooth invisible ear piece via the phone, having live board engine responses fed to by an accomplice.
Imposition of delays seems to have gone out of fashion, but don't these spyware technologies suggest the use of transmission delays on live coverage? If sites like chessbomb, chess.com or chess24 are supplying live analysis, you don't want the players to have easy access to them during the game.
The spyware stuff is unsurprisingly quite advanced these days. You can even have two way conversations by having, for example, a necklace as well with a concealed button, one click for yes, two for no kind of thing.

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Re: Nigel Short is on the mend

Post by Chris Rice » Thu Jan 06, 2022 8:47 am

ChessBase report which has interviews with the organisers, players and the father of Candian. All now seem to accept that the phone was thought to be switched off but came on for an appointment reminder.

Matt Bridgeman

Re: Nigel Short is on the mend

Post by Matt Bridgeman » Thu Jan 06, 2022 9:33 am

Chris Rice wrote:
Thu Jan 06, 2022 8:47 am
ChessBase report which has interviews with the organisers, players and the father of Candian. All now seem to accept that the phone was thought to be switched off but came on for an appointment reminder.
The first mass participation chess event I’ve seen where all the players are behaving and wearing masks. Yet to be seen on British shores! Lol

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Re: Nigel Short is on the mend

Post by NickFaulks » Thu Jan 06, 2022 10:56 am

Matt Bridgeman wrote:
Thu Jan 06, 2022 9:33 am
The first mass participation chess event I’ve seen where all the players are behaving and wearing masks. Yet to be seen on British shores! Lol
Well, they are in the land of Mussolini.
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Re: Nigel Short is on the mend

Post by Ian Thompson » Thu Jan 06, 2022 4:36 pm

Chris Rice wrote:
Thu Jan 06, 2022 8:47 am
ChessBase report which has interviews with the organisers, players and the father of Candian. All now seem to accept that the phone was thought to be switched off but came on for an appointment reminder.
Now also mentioned on the Chessbase Germany website with the surprising statement that some tournaments allow mobile phones to be brought to the board and left switched on so long as they are silenced - "At some tournaments, it is currently allowed to bring the mobile to the board to let Corona warn apps remain active. Candian, however, had forgotten to mute his mobile."

I'd like to see evidence to substantiate that claim. Even if true, it appears to be irrelevant for this tournament, whose rules say "Mobile phones and electronic devices are not allowed in the playing hall".

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