Carlsen resigns on move 2
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Re: Carlsen resigns on move 2
Carlsen's coach, Peter Heine Nielsen, has given an interview to Chess24 .
Here https://youtu.be/DfPy90pGyOc with commentary from Hikaru.
For someone who ran a campaign for the FIDE presidency on the need for 'transparency', he was totally opaque on the question on whether Carlsen had any proof of Niemann cheating over the board. He batted away the questions citing clent confidentiality, but gave the occasional smirk as he did so. If he intended to say nothing, then what was the purpose of giving the interview knowing these questions would be asked? It became clear what his motive was when he criticised Ken Regan's analyses, not on the basis of the statistics (which he admitted he knew little about), but on Regan's ability to assess the chess moves. Nielsen did not give any examples, which would be the transparent thing to do, but just said enough to undermine Regans' credibilty.
ps Ken Regan may not be a 2700 SuperGM, but he was a strong 2400 IM and good enough to play in the US Championship.
Here https://youtu.be/DfPy90pGyOc with commentary from Hikaru.
For someone who ran a campaign for the FIDE presidency on the need for 'transparency', he was totally opaque on the question on whether Carlsen had any proof of Niemann cheating over the board. He batted away the questions citing clent confidentiality, but gave the occasional smirk as he did so. If he intended to say nothing, then what was the purpose of giving the interview knowing these questions would be asked? It became clear what his motive was when he criticised Ken Regan's analyses, not on the basis of the statistics (which he admitted he knew little about), but on Regan's ability to assess the chess moves. Nielsen did not give any examples, which would be the transparent thing to do, but just said enough to undermine Regans' credibilty.
ps Ken Regan may not be a 2700 SuperGM, but he was a strong 2400 IM and good enough to play in the US Championship.
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I thought the method relied on the reliability of stockfish and other engines to find the best moves, nothing to do with Ken Regan's chess ability. The premise being that if you can match the "perfect" play as defined by stockfish that you might have had hints along the way. The statistics being an attempt to turn the "might" into a near certainty.Gerard Killoran wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 4:23 pmIt became clear what his motive was when he criticised Ken Regan's analyses, not on the basis of the statistics (which he admitted he knew little about), but on Regan's ability to assess the chess moves.
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Re: Carlsen resigns on move 2
Yes, puzzIed for same reason as RdC. Can anyone expIain?Roger de Coverly wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 5:46 pmI thought the method relied on the reliability of stockfish and other engines to find the best moves, nothing to do with Ken Regan's chess ability. The premise being that if you can match the "perfect" play as defined by stockfish that you might have had hints along the way. The statistics being an attempt to turn the "might" into a near certainty.Gerard Killoran wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 4:23 pmIt became clear what his motive was when he criticised Ken Regan's analyses, not on the basis of the statistics (which he admitted he knew little about), but on Regan's ability to assess the chess moves.
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Re: Carlsen resigns on move 2
Is it just me, or does Carlsen play much better moves online than OTB?
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Not in this game!NickFaulks wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 7:33 pmIs it just me, or does Carlsen play much better moves online than OTB?
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Ask Peter Heine Nielsen.Roger Lancaster wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 5:48 pmYes, puzzIed for same reason as RdC. Can anyone expIain?Roger de Coverly wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 5:46 pmI thought the method relied on the reliability of stockfish and other engines to find the best moves, nothing to do with Ken Regan's chess ability. The premise being that if you can match the "perfect" play as defined by stockfish that you might have had hints along the way. The statistics being an attempt to turn the "might" into a near certainty.Gerard Killoran wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 4:23 pmIt became clear what his motive was when he criticised Ken Regan's analyses, not on the basis of the statistics (which he admitted he knew little about), but on Regan's ability to assess the chess moves.
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Re: Carlsen resigns on move 2
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Magnus was interviewed at the end of today's play. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1597205717 from about 3 hours 36 minutes.
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Re: Carlsen resigns on move 2
Magnus Carlsen this evening: ''In future cheating should not be taken lightly online nor over the board''. He said he will probably say more after this event is over.
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Re: Carlsen resigns on move 2
Can someone give me a summary? I don't have a sick bag to hand.
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Re: Carlsen resigns on move 2
"Unfortunately I cannot particularly speak on that but people can draw their own conclusion & they certainly have. I have to say I am very impressed by Niemann's play & I think his mentor Maxim Dlugy must have been doing a great job"NickFaulks wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 8:59 pmCan someone give me a summary? I don't have a sick bag to hand.
Will be interesting what Max Dlugy-who I understand is not short of a bob or two-makes of that. Presumably the link being Dlugy was once cut off from a chess.com tournament, with people drawing a conclusion as to why that was despite silence from chess.com.
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Hi,
A great interview by Kaja Snare she tried her best to squeeze something out
of Magnus, she did not fold, but he is sticking to his no comment stance. (for now)
It's his best and safest option. He will do another at the end of the tournament.
I took the mention of Hans being a good player as the fore runner of some kind of apology coming.
Hopefully, then we can go back to normal....what ever that is.
A great interview by Kaja Snare she tried her best to squeeze something out
of Magnus, she did not fold, but he is sticking to his no comment stance. (for now)
It's his best and safest option. He will do another at the end of the tournament.
I took the mention of Hans being a good player as the fore runner of some kind of apology coming.
Hopefully, then we can go back to normal....what ever that is.
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Re: Carlsen resigns on move 2
I thought it was that Hans was part of his coaching academy: https://www.chessmaxacademy.com/achieve ... 2kVSjTKfvo but didn't know about the chess.com angle.Paul Heaton wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:41 pm"Unfortunately I cannot particularly speak on that but people can draw their own conclusion & they certainly have. I have to say I am very impressed by Niemann's play & I think his mentor Maxim Dlugy must have been doing a great job"NickFaulks wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 8:59 pmCan someone give me a summary? I don't have a sick bag to hand.
Will be interesting what Max Dlugy-who I understand is not short of a bob or two-makes of that. Presumably the link being Dlugy was once cut off from a chess.com tournament, with people drawing a conclusion as to why that was despite silence from chess.com.
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Re: Carlsen resigns on move 2
Hi Paul,Paul Heaton wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:41 pmPresumably the link being Dlugy was once cut off from a chess.com tournament.
I cannot see an underhand link there. Look how carefully Magnus chose his words.
But that part was smooth, scripted, he's been advised to slip that in so the apology will not
come out the blue. I'm sticking my neck out but that is only way this thing ends with him saying sorry.
Magnus has to wait till the end of the tournament to see how he and Hans does.
If Magnus gets knocked out sooner it will come then. An apology.
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Re: Carlsen resigns on move 2
Look on Twitter, Reddit etc. Journalists like Tarjei Svensen know exactly what he meant.Geoff Chandler wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 10:28 pmI cannot see an underhand link there. Look how carefully Magnus chose his words.
My *guess* would be Carlsen has seen thIs list of people chess.com have banned.