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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Wed Mar 22, 2023 2:23 pm

Nick Ivell wrote:
Wed Mar 22, 2023 10:06 am
Interesting how chess-playing MPs tend to be Labour. Reeves, the Eagle twins...

Even Brian Walden, though he turned out to be more Thatcherite than most Tories!
Going back a bit, Julius Silverman as well.

Though the strongest ever chess playing PM was a Tory (Andrew Bonar Law)

And returning to ancient times, MP Marmaduke Wyvill was a Whig turned Liberal (he represented Rishi Sunak's current seat btw)
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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by Peter Hornsby » Thu Mar 23, 2023 4:45 pm

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65054779

Ukraine takes on UK in solidarity chess tournament and House of Lords vs House of Commons Chess match

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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by Roger de Coverly » Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:28 pm

Nick Ivell wrote:
Wed Mar 22, 2023 10:06 am
Interesting how chess-playing MPs tend to be Labour. Reeves, the Eagle twins...
MPs and peers named in the BBC report
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65054779
Conservative transport minister Jesse Norman, Labour's shadow chancellor Rachel Reeves, the SNP's Chris Stephens, Conservatives John Baron and Tobias Ellwood played for the Commons.

Labour's Lord Robert Winston, Plaid Cymru's Lord Dafydd Wigley and Crossbencher Lord Bernard Hogan-Howe were among those who took part for the Lords.

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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by Mick Norris » Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:38 pm

Jesse Norman tweets
Taking on the legendary Robert Winston in the #LordsvsCommons chess match. I managed to win a long, hard-fought King's Indian. Phew.
I think I read earlier the MPs won 8-2, but I can't find that now
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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Thu Mar 23, 2023 6:36 pm

Back in the day there was also the former LibDem MP Evan Harris, who was county strength and once played top board in the Commons v Lords match (where he lost a miniature to Raymondo's pal Lord [Julian] Hardinge IIRC)
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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by Angus French » Thu Mar 23, 2023 10:06 pm

Mick Norris wrote:
Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:38 pm
Jesse Norman tweets
Taking on the legendary Robert Winston in the #LordsvsCommons chess match. I managed to win a long, hard-fought King's Indian. Phew.
I think I read earlier the MPs won 8-2, but I can't find that now
8.5 - 3.5 to the House of Commons it says here.

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Re: Media comments on chess

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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by Stewart Reuben » Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:32 am

JEREMY HANLEY, at one time chairman of the Conservative party, was quite keen on chess.

In case you haven't seen it and haven't noticed.
QUEEN OF KATWE is on BBC2 on Saturday 25 March 10-noon. It belongs in lists of top 10 films in which chess plays a major part.
Others include: Innocent Moves (also known as Searching for Bobby Fischer); Chess Fever; Seventh Seal; The Chess Players; Fresh; Black and White like Day is Night; Dangerous Moves; Luzhin Defence; The Great Chess Movie.

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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by Angus French » Fri Mar 24, 2023 6:34 am

Stewart Reuben wrote:
Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:32 am
JEREMY HANLEY, at one time chairman of the Conservative party, was quite keen on chess.
Yes, Hanley was also Chairman of Brain Games Network.

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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by Mick Norris » Fri Mar 24, 2023 8:33 am

Angus French wrote:
Thu Mar 23, 2023 10:06 pm
Mick Norris wrote:
Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:38 pm
Jesse Norman tweets
Taking on the legendary Robert Winston in the #LordsvsCommons chess match. I managed to win a long, hard-fought King's Indian. Phew.
I think I read earlier the MPs won 8-2, but I can't find that now
8.5 - 3.5 to the House of Commons it says here.
CSC have it as 8.5 - 2.5 so we know it was a decisive win whatever the score :)
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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Fri Mar 24, 2023 6:44 pm

Saw a game of Hanley's published once, it wasn't terribly impressive IIRC.
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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by Kevin Thurlow » Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:49 pm

Other MPs with an interest in chess were Sir John Simon, and Sir Richard Barnett (reckoned to be second only to Bonar Law in ability). Reginald McKenna won the House of Commons Chess Championship in 1901-02.

A free extract from my book on Civil Service chess:-

"The Manchester Evening News reported on 8th September 1887,
‘The Speaker has so far accommodated the sporting instincts of members as to give his consent to chess being played in the Smoke-room of the House of Commons; and last night the first chess party was made up consisting of Lord Carmarthen, Mr Evelyn, Mr Boord and Mr CS Parker. The noble marquis is a young gentleman of decidedly sporting tendency, though he keeps it well under control. Since he has been in the House he has shown that he is quite capable of developing into a useful matter of fact, business-like member, and having the advantage of being son & heir to a duke, will no doubt have a fairly brilliant ministerial career.’
The newspaper did not seem to like him much. In fact when the marquis (originally George Osborne) inherited his father’s title, becoming 10th Duke of Leeds in 1895, he left Parliament. He was briefly treasurer of the household, which gave him membership of the Privy Council."

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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by Alex McFarlane » Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:58 pm

Alan Reid was an MP at the beginning of this century. He was rated over 2200.

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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by Paul Habershon » Sat Mar 25, 2023 6:49 am

Alex McFarlane wrote:
Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:58 pm
Alan Reid was an MP at the beginning of this century. He was rated over 2200.
Another Scot: Peter Doig (1911-1996), Labour MP for Dundee West 1963-1979. I remember meeting him at a tournament though not across the board. I am fairly sure he competed and wasn't just involved in opening or closing ceremonies, for which MPs are typically in demand.

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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by Alex McFarlane » Sat Mar 25, 2023 10:20 am

Paul Habershon wrote:
Sat Mar 25, 2023 6:49 am
Another Scot: Peter Doig (1911-1996), Labour MP for Dundee West 1963-1979
Hi Paul,

Indeed he was a player. It was Kevin's claim about Richard Barnett being second only to Bonar Law which prompted my post. I think Alan has a claim to have been the strongest chess playing MP.