Accusation against Alejandro Ramirez

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Re: Accusation against Alejandro Ramirez

Post by Ian Thompson » Sun Aug 13, 2023 12:08 pm

Mark Howitt wrote:
Sun Aug 13, 2023 11:22 am
And I think the man Sabrina could possibly be talking about on twitter... may possibly be Nigel Short...
Someone has put a direct question to Nigel Short on Twitter asking him if it is he who is being referred to. I dare say anyone so inclined could do some detective work to narrow the culprit down to a very small number of people based on what she has said.

Sabrina has also said "over the next 7 days, I will release a detailed story each day. I have enough to maybe last a year. They will be a mixture of sexual harassment/assault, racism, paedophilia and generally awful behaviour."

Good, because one frequently hears complaints about such behaviour, but rarely any specifics on what happened.

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Re: Accusation against Alejandro Ramirez

Post by NickFaulks » Sun Aug 13, 2023 12:27 pm

Ian Thompson wrote:
Sun Aug 13, 2023 12:08 pm
Sabrina has also said "over the next 7 days, I will release a detailed story each day. I have enough to maybe last a year. They will be a mixture of sexual harassment/assault, racism, paedophilia and generally awful behaviour.
Where did she say this, and will her detailed stories be in the same place?

It sounds as though she intends to stop short of naming names. I hope I am wrong about that.
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Re: Accusation against Alejandro Ramirez

Post by John Upham » Sun Aug 13, 2023 12:37 pm

Is it known if a complaint was made to the BCF concerning JN Walker?

If so, was it handled properly or was it brushed under the carpet?

He was 58 in 2002 and therefore would be around 79 now. I'm not sure if he is alive.

See http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/1827169.stm
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Re: Accusation against Alejandro Ramirez

Post by Roger de Coverly » Sun Aug 13, 2023 12:49 pm

NickFaulks wrote:
Sun Aug 13, 2023 12:27 pm
Where did she say this, and will her detailed stories be in the same place?

There are suggestions an incident took place at the prizegiving of the 2000 British at Millfield School. A name that's been speculated wasn't playing there. I suppose it's possible he was present for the prize giving.

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Re: Accusation against Alejandro Ramirez

Post by Ian Thompson » Sun Aug 13, 2023 1:17 pm

NickFaulks wrote:
Sun Aug 13, 2023 12:27 pm
Ian Thompson wrote:
Sun Aug 13, 2023 12:08 pm
Sabrina has also said "over the next 7 days, I will release a detailed story each day. I have enough to maybe last a year. They will be a mixture of sexual harassment/assault, racism, paedophilia and generally awful behaviour.
Where did she say this, and will her detailed stories be in the same place?
Twitter - https://twitter.com/SChevannes/status/1 ... 9820189696 and https://twitter.com/SChevannes/status/1 ... 3128766464.

Yes and the first story is here - https://twitter.com/SChevannes/status/1 ... 4790724609

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Re: Accusation against Alejandro Ramirez

Post by NickFaulks » Sun Aug 13, 2023 1:19 pm

John Upham wrote:
Sun Aug 13, 2023 12:37 pm
Is it known if a complaint was made to the BCF concerning JN Walker?

If so, was it handled properly or was it brushed under the carpet?

He was 58 in 2002 and therefore would be around 79 now. I'm not sure if he is alive.

See http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/1827169.stm
"The offences centred on a primary school, which cannot be named for legal reasons, over a 13-year period between 1976 and 1989."

It is probably a bit late to do anything about that one ( cf Eley ). Let's see if we can find a case of recent or current misbehaviour, of which we are assured there are a great many.
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Re: Accusation against Alejandro Ramirez

Post by NickFaulks » Sun Aug 13, 2023 1:28 pm

Ian Thompson wrote:
Sun Aug 13, 2023 1:17 pm
Yes and the first story is here - https://twitter.com/SChevannes/status/1 ... 4790724609
Thanks, I'm not very good at twitter.

Why would you put out a story like that but not name the miscreant? I shall genuinely never understand - it's not as though the GM who is immediately under suspicion commands unqualified love around chess media. What if it isn't him?
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Re: Accusation against Alejandro Ramirez

Post by Reg Clucas » Sun Aug 13, 2023 1:39 pm

NickFaulks wrote:
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Why would you put out a story like that but not name the miscreant?
Fear of litigation?

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Re: Accusation against Alejandro Ramirez

Post by Stephen Westmoreland » Sun Aug 13, 2023 1:42 pm

Story two is out..


Story 2: 🧵 I have two older brothers and so have always been friends with lots of boys all my life.

I have been told that it’s this reason that I “got what was coming to me”, because I was “one of the lads”.

Just because I trusted them, it does not mean they should misuse it.

The gist of it was, she went to sleep on his room before a match (offered so she could rest) and he assaulted her whilst sleeping.
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Re: Accusation against Alejandro Ramirez

Post by NickFaulks » Sun Aug 13, 2023 2:34 pm

Reg Clucas wrote:
Sun Aug 13, 2023 1:39 pm
Fear of litigation?
Very weak. PHN appears to have named the GM and he would be a much more tempting target for a lawsuit.
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Re: Accusation against Alejandro Ramirez

Post by Mark Howitt » Sun Aug 13, 2023 3:57 pm

Just read a bit... yeah Nigel publically named...

I mean guy it's already in public he 'likes women'...

Nothing wrong being flirty etc with women but maybe he's gone too far...

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Re: Accusation against Alejandro Ramirez

Post by Matt Bridgeman » Sun Aug 13, 2023 3:59 pm

NickFaulks wrote:
Sun Aug 13, 2023 2:34 pm
Reg Clucas wrote:
Sun Aug 13, 2023 1:39 pm
Fear of litigation?
Very weak. PHN appears to have named the GM and he would be a much more tempting target for a lawsuit.
I would guess at some point the mainstream media will get their teeth into the story, which seems to be global and growing.
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Re: Accusation against Alejandro Ramirez

Post by Paul Cooksey » Sun Aug 13, 2023 5:11 pm

I think assuming only one offender is too optimistic.

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Re: Accusation against Alejandro Ramirez

Post by Mark Howitt » Sun Aug 13, 2023 5:19 pm

You know what I'm thinking a bit now...

Maybe this is a reason Nigel Short hasn't been selected to play for the regular England team for years... despite being strong enough...

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Re: Accusation against Alejandro Ramirez

Post by Roger de Coverly » Sun Aug 13, 2023 5:31 pm

Mark Howitt wrote:
Sun Aug 13, 2023 5:19 pm
Maybe this is a reason Nigel Short hasn't been selected to play for the regular England team for years..
At Olympiads he was usually otherwise engaged on FIDE matters. Otherwise I suspect he just declared himself unavailable.

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