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Post by John Townsend » Sun May 18, 2025 11:50 am

Christopher Kreuzer commented:

"Maybe she chopped and changed and used different names at different times."

Is there any evidence for that? From the information above, I would be more inclined to think that the names used in the Observer and the Falkirk Herald were merely freak occurrences.

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Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Sun May 18, 2025 11:52 am

No evidence, no. You are right that hard evidence should be preferred over speculation.

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Post by John Townsend » Sun May 18, 2025 12:08 pm

Incidentally, I was happy to see the photo (above) of Dinah Norman (formerly Dobson) presenting the trophy to David Pritchard. She has recently added a trophy of her own to her cabinet, the West of England Women's Championship. She is a valued member of the Wokingham U3A's Social Chess group.

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Post by Richard James » Sun May 18, 2025 12:11 pm

A quick search of 1935 newspapers finds a whole gaggle of Eileens, all living in Richmond (I believe, although she was going to school in Richmond, she was actually living in St Margarets, on the Twickenham/Isleworth borders, at the time) so I suspect there was an inaccurate press release of some sort.

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Post by James Pratt » Wed May 21, 2025 10:19 pm

I'll get into trouble saying this (especially if I am wrong) but I think there have been three Elaine Saunders in chess in various eras, one still active I think. Dinah Dobson married Danny Wright and later Ken Norman. Danny then wed Mitzi Kalinsky but that's another story ...

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Post by Gerard Killoran » Thu Jul 03, 2025 4:54 pm

1932 British Chess Championship

A 'miserable worm' - Nigel Short

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Post by John Saunders » Sat Jul 05, 2025 10:18 am

Gerard Killoran wrote:
Thu Jul 03, 2025 4:54 pm
1932 British Chess Championship

Many thanks, Gerard. I've added the game to the BritBase collection here...

1932 British Championship

Note that his surname was Mallison (not Mallinson) - I've amended in the quoted passage above.

There's quite a lot of interesting biographical information to be found about him online. Apparently Exeter Chess Club has his scorebooks and chess notes. I wonder if someone associated with the club could be persuaded to digitise his game collection.
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Post by Jon D'Souza-Eva » Sat Jul 05, 2025 10:32 am

John Saunders wrote:
Sat Jul 05, 2025 10:18 am
Note that his surname was Mallison (not Mallinson) - I've amended in the quoted passage above.
The confusion is caused because there was someone called Harold Vincent Mallinson, who was born a year before Harold Vincent Mallison:
https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/pe ... s/L5Y5-DR4
As far as I know, Harold Vincent Mallinson did not play competative chess.

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Post by Gerard Killoran » Tue Jul 15, 2025 10:18 am

For the Hastings collection.
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Post by John Saunders » Tue Jul 15, 2025 6:27 pm

Gerard Killoran wrote:
Tue Jul 15, 2025 10:18 am
For the Hastings collection.
Many thanks, Gerard - now added to the BritBase collection for Hastings 1925/26.

Changing the subject, I've just been reading about Annie Mabel Gooding, who was one of the participants in the 1897 Ladies International and also a regular at British Championships in the early days. She was born in Cheltenham in 1867, the daughter of a local GP, and lived there all her life, latterly with a live-in housekeeper and gardener. She was hon. treasurer of Cheltenham Chess Club and allowed the club to meet at a room in her house every day except Sundays.

What really whetted my appetite to know more about Ms Gooding was when I came across her 1921 census entry...
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... and saw the entry in the occupation field: "The search of a just rateable valuation!" The comment and exclamation mark would appear to be her own, though another hand (the enumerator) has pencilled in a rather more orthodox "none" over the top of it.

A visit to an online newspaper archive gave the back story. The previous year she had gone to court to argue her case about her house's rateable value but lost.

Annie Mabel Gooding died in 1925 but her story didn't stop there as her will was contested in court and the story raked over by the provincial press. One of them was headlined "Eccentric Cheltenham Lady" and included a quotable quote.

Cheltenham Chronicle, 10 July 1926...
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Peterborough Standard, 16 July 1926, had something similar...
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Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Wed Jul 16, 2025 10:41 pm

Can you get a copy of will by any chance? Does the house still exist?

If you trust AI overviews...
"Cambridge Villas" in Cheltenham refers to a pair of Regency-style villas built just prior to 1835, and were collectively known as "Cambridge Villas" at the time. They are now numbered 121-127 The Promenade.
These villas are part of Cheltenham's rich architectural heritage, reflecting the town's popularity as a Regency-era spa destination. The area is known for its elegant buildings and fashionable atmosphere.
So presumably something like this:

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/163156022

£750 to £2.35 million. Someone else can work out the inflation there. Ms Gooding would be proud.

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Post by John Townsend » Thu Jul 17, 2025 10:14 am

A copy of her will should be obtainable at a cost of £1.50 via this website:

https://www.gov.uk/search-will-probate

You will need the date of death, which was 3 June 1925.

There were two grants of probate, as the estate was resworn.

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Post by John Townsend » Thu Jul 17, 2025 11:09 am

To be more exact, the first grant, on 26 April 1926, was for letters of administration. However, the second grant, on 18 October 1926, was for probate, so that is the one to order to be sure of getting a copy of her will (if you only want to order one, that is).

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Re: Britbase Updates

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Thu Jul 17, 2025 12:07 pm

Is it like the Tomb of Tutankhamun? If you break the seal on the will, you are cursed for ever more? I am slightly wary of the shade of Ms Gooding from beyond the grave! "Vengeance is mine, saith the Lord. I will repay"!

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Post by John Saunders » Fri Jul 18, 2025 11:37 am

Here's one more competitor from the 1897 Ladies' International tournament who, in the words of a popular song, "fought the law and the law won"...

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