Brothers playing for England
- MJMcCready
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Brothers playing for England
How many times have brothers played for England and been on the same team? I know Jonathan Penrose's brothers were strong but I don't recall them playing for England together. At present the Ledger brothers are representing England and playing for England at the FIDE seniors champsionships down there in Albania. Without proof otherwise, I am inclined to think this may be a first.
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Alan Walton
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Re: Brothers playing for England
I highly suspect the Pert's would have played for England together; especially as juniors
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Re: Brothers playing for England
Ah yes, many thanks. I forgot about them even though I played Nick once in Hitchin.Alan Walton wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2026 9:40 amI highly suspect the Pert's would have played for England together; especially as juniors
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Jon D'Souza-Eva
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Re: Brothers playing for England
More recently there's been Stanley and Frankie Badacsonyi and Amandeep and Adamjeet Singh.
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Re: Brothers playing for England
Okay, many thanks.
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Re: Brothers playing for England
Is this also at Junior level?Jon D'Souza-Eva wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2026 9:56 amMore recently there's been Stanley and Frankie Badacsonyi and Amandeep and Adamjeet Singh.
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Alan Walton
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Re: Brothers playing for England
I doubt the Badacsonyi would have played together in the same junior teams since the ages are too far apart (3 years); the Singh's may have but it would have to have been this year when Adamjeet would be in his last for the U11 and Amandeep playing as an U9 on the bottom boardsJon D'Souza-Eva wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2026 9:56 amMore recently there's been Stanley and Frankie Badacsonyi and Amandeep and Adamjeet Singh.
Obviously all of them would have played for England at some stage but that wasn't the question
I also have an issue around these events like the seniors when saying you are playing for England, yes the first team since there is selection crieria (possibly??), but the others are on a volunteer basis so it is just a title and technically not playing for England officially
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Jon D'Souza-Eva
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Re: Brothers playing for England
Yes, good point. I didn't read the first post properly.Alan Walton wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2026 1:29 pmObviously all of them would have played for England at some stage but that wasn't the question
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Re: Brothers playing for England
1963 - John & Norman Littlewood play for England/Great Britain* in the annual match vs Netherlands...
https://www.saund.org.uk/britbase/pgn/1 ... iewer.html
(* usually referred to as 'England' in the chess press but Scots and Welsh players took part from time to time)
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Re: Brothers playing for England
Thanks John
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Re: Brothers playing for England
Also in several of the subsequent years.John Saunders wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2026 3:13 pm1963 - John & Norman Littlewood play for England/Great Britain* in the annual match vs Netherlands...
They both played for England in Olympiad teams, but never in the same one.
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These matches were referred to as Anglo-Dutch and Anglo-German matches to deal with such nationalistic ambiguities.John Saunders wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2026 3:13 pm1963 - John & Norman Littlewood play for England/Great Britain* in the annual match vs Netherlands...
https://www.saund.org.uk/britbase/pgn/1 ... iewer.html
(* usually referred to as 'England' in the chess press but Scots and Welsh players took part from time to time)
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Re: Brothers playing for England
England would have to go some to emulate these guys...
https://s1.chess-results.com/tnr1396652 ... 5&SNode=S0
https://s1.chess-results.com/tnr1396652 ... 5&SNode=S0
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Jon D'Souza-Eva
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Re: Brothers playing for England
The team is called "Six Brothers", suggesting they have two more in reserve!Kevin Thurlow wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2026 10:11 pmEngland would have to go some to emulate these guys...
https://s1.chess-results.com/tnr1396652 ... 5&SNode=S0
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Re: Brothers playing for England
Twice as good as ours then.