Remembering Fred Dewhirst Yates (16-i-1884 11-xi-1932)

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Remembering Fred Dewhirst Yates (16-i-1884 11-xi-1932)

Post by John Upham » Wed Nov 11, 2026 1:52 pm

Remembering Fred Dewhirst Yates (16-i-1884 11-xi-1932)




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Post by John Townsend » Wed Nov 11, 2026 3:25 pm

I'm surprised by the phrase attributed to P.W. Sergeant, ein tiefe Denker, which seems to be grammatically incorrect: I think it should be ein tiefer Denker, at least, according to my schoolboy recollections.

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Post by John Upham » Wed Nov 11, 2026 3:54 pm

John Townsend wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 11, 2026 3:25 pm
I'm surprised by the phrase attributed to P.W. Sergeant, ein tiefe Denker, which seems to be grammatically incorrect: I think it should be ein tiefer Denker, at least, according to my schoolboy recollections.
Thank-you for drawing this important matter to my attention. I have double checked my 1932 BCM bound volume (page 527) and "ein tiefe Denker" is what is printed.

Apparently
The German phrase "ein tiefer Denker" (often misspelled as ein tiefe Denker) means "a deep thinker".
is the answer from a popular Inter web search engine,

You will no doubt be pleased to know I was recently treated to seeing the opposite colour bishop ending you had with Timothy Chapman at The Victory Hall in Farley Hill.
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Re: Remembering Fred Dewhirst Yates (16-i-1884 11-xi-1932)

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Wed Nov 11, 2026 4:16 pm

Of his four games chosen for that piece, all were wins with the Black pieces. Which must be fairly unusual.
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Re: Remembering Fred Dewhirst Yates (16-i-1884 11-xi-1932)

Post by John Townsend » Wed Nov 11, 2026 5:39 pm

John,

At school I would have been in deep trouble for "Ein tiefe Denker". We had a German master who took it as a personal insult if we displayed ignorance of the declensions which he had taken the care to drum into us. He gave out ridiculous numbers of lines to be written out, such as 1,000, which nobody bothered to do, and which he never asked to see.

I had hoped you might be glad to be informed about the grammatical error. I won't bother another time.

In the game which you referred to against Tim Chapman, I felt as if I was on top after the opening, but I have not discovered a way to win, either before or after the bishops of opposite colours. Any suggestions welcome. At least, Tim seemed quite pleased with the draw ...

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