BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

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Re: BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

Post by Matthew Turner » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:04 pm

Howell has lost, but what was wrong with 52 h6?

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Post by Gavin Strachan » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:04 pm

I was just about to say after b3 I can't see how Howell can survive as after jacking in the knight the h pawn isn't going to queen. h6 - kf6 i think. do not want to think too hard might get a nose bleed :wink:

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Re: BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

Post by Matthew Turner » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:08 pm

If you mean axb3 then Nf8+ and we both get a queen (i think)

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Post by John Saunders » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:13 pm

@Matthew After they both queen, I think White only gets two checks - Qf6+ Kb5 Qe5+ Ka4 and then nothing.
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Post by LozCooper » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:13 pm

Matthew Turner wrote:If you mean axb3 then Nf8+ and we both get a queen (i think)
I think after both sides queen that black can dodge the checks but it looked like the only try and I suspect it was his original intention.

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Post by Gavin Strachan » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:14 pm

soory i was looking at the end. at move 52.. kx n, h7, axb followed by ra8. Don't ask I'm watching harry potter. actually I can't count. yes king takes it does work.

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Re: BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

Post by Martin Benjamin » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:15 pm

Matthew Turner wrote:Howell has lost, but what was wrong with 52 h6?
I assume you mean 52 h6 axb3 53 Nf8+ or 52 h6 Ra1 53 Kg2. I agree - I can't see anything for Black except to queen as well in the 52 h6 axb3 53 Nf8+ line, but is that winning for Black? What are we missing?
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Re: BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

Post by James Coleman » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:16 pm

It's all over for Hawkins. Very impressive game by Short.

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Post by Paul Cooksey » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:17 pm

funny that simplifying to opposite bishops was a winning plan

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Post by LozCooper » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:18 pm

Martin Benjamin wrote:
Matthew Turner wrote:Howell has lost, but what was wrong with 52 h6?
I assume you mean 52 h6 axb3 53 Nf8+ or 52 h6 Ra1 53 Kg2. I agree - I can't see anything for Black except to queen as well in the 52 h6 axb3 53 Nf8+ line, but is that winning for Black? What are we missing?
It is winning as after both sides queen white will run out of checks (in the Nf8 line). But it looked the best practical chance.

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Post by Gavin Strachan » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:19 pm

i did notice he had not a lot of time and that is perhaps why he did not spot that line

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Post by Martin Benjamin » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:20 pm

Paul Cooksey wrote:funny that simplifying to opposite bishops was a winning plan
And as you quite rightly wrote several hours ago in response to someone's suggestion that the ending was an easy draw, Short was likely to make Hawkins suffer in that ending with the rooks on.

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Re: BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

Post by Michael Jones » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:21 pm

Houska three pawns up, Gordon must be pretty confident that he can force stalemate.

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Re: BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

Post by Martin Benjamin » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:23 pm

LozCooper wrote:
Martin Benjamin wrote:
Matthew Turner wrote:Howell has lost, but what was wrong with 52 h6?
I assume you mean 52 h6 axb3 53 Nf8+ or 52 h6 Ra1 53 Kg2. I agree - I can't see anything for Black except to queen as well in the 52 h6 axb3 53 Nf8+ line, but is that winning for Black? What are we missing?
It is winning as after both sides queen white will run out of checks (in the Nf8 line). But it looked the best practical chance.
Thanks. My oversight - I thought the ending with Q+N v Q+R would be difficult, but I completely forgot Black still had a b-pawn left on b4! (and that Black's queen on b1 conveniently defends all his piece and pawns).

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Re: BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

Post by LozCooper » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:23 pm

Gavin Strachan wrote:i did notice he had not a lot of time and that is perhaps why he did not spot that line
I'm sure he saw it but probably used up all his time on it and then in desperation tried something else.

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