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Ian Thompson
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You Think English Juniors are Underrated ...

Post by Ian Thompson » Mon Apr 15, 2019 7:48 am

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Kevin Thurlow
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Re: You Think English Juniors are Underrated ...

Post by Kevin Thurlow » Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:47 pm

Wow! I think you can be quite proud of the draw...

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Re: You Think English Juniors are Underrated ...

Post by NickFaulks » Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:29 pm

I've had a look at this one. It was unfortunate that he got his initial rating scoring 1/9 using iteration in an unsuitable round robin, just about the best way to get an unreliable result. Even so, until the end of last year there was no reason to think he was worth any more than 1600, so this is a remarkable result.

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Re: You Think English Juniors are Underrated ...

Post by Alan Walton » Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:38 pm

Looking at the results; lost to the two strong players and got something against everybody else; what makes that a good result the 2100-2200 may have played badly to lose to him; at 16 years old beating 2200s isn’t shocking; like Nick said just had a under valued rating

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Re: You Think English Juniors are Underrated ...

Post by Alan Walton » Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:41 pm

Also when I was 16 many years ago quickly up from 140 ECF to about 170 in two years; maybe a late bloomer

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Re: You Think English Juniors are Underrated ...

Post by Roger de Coverly » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:10 pm

NickFaulks wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:29 pm
Even so, until the end of last year there was no reason to think he was worth any more than 1600, so this is a remarkable result.
Presumably his opponents are satisfied that it was legitimate.

If you search for the name of the player removed from last year's 4NCL Telford minor tournament, there's evidence on a chessbase site using engine matching. His 120 standard opponents usually manage about 20%, whereas his matching rate is 70% plus. It's still not generally known what was his method, or how the Telford organisers and arbiters detected it.

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