(Chess) Life Returning To Normal

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MartinCarpenter
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Re: (Chess) Life Returning To Normal

Post by MartinCarpenter » Wed Jul 01, 2020 10:12 am

Ian Thompson wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:45 pm
Tim Spanton wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:22 pm
The number of deaths registered in the UK over one week has fallen below the five-year average for the first time since mid-March.
Is this to be expected?

Corona virus prematurely kills some people who wouldn't have lived much longer anyway. You then get fewer deaths in the weeks when those people would have died if they hadn't caught corona virus.
That can be over stated. 13 years of life expectancy lost/death on average iirc?

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Re: (Chess) Life Returning To Normal

Post by Alan Walton » Wed Jul 01, 2020 10:34 am

MartinCarpenter wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 10:12 am
Ian Thompson wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:45 pm
Tim Spanton wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:22 pm
The number of deaths registered in the UK over one week has fallen below the five-year average for the first time since mid-March.
Is this to be expected?

Corona virus prematurely kills some people who wouldn't have lived much longer anyway. You then get fewer deaths in the weeks when those people would have died if they hadn't caught corona virus.
That can be over stated. 13 years of life expectancy lost/death on average iirc?
This 13 year figure has been questioned; I believe it has been generalised just using life expectancy, and not taking into account personal situations

For example; a high % of deaths have occurred in care homes, in this environment the average life expectancy is only 2 years

So you can see how this affects the numbers

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Re: (Chess) Life Returning To Normal

Post by Roger de Coverly » Wed Jul 01, 2020 10:39 am

MartinCarpenter wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 10:12 am
That can be over stated. 13 years of life expectancy lost/death on average iirc?
In terms of count, the numbers dying each week in the UK of the virus are down to a level comparable to one-off disasters such as a plane crash or major fire.

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Re: (Chess) Life Returning To Normal

Post by John McKenna » Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:18 am

The "count" may be returning to a more normal level.

However, a plane crash or a major fire per week is far from normal for the UK.

Chess life and human life itself will struggle to return to what it was before this virus went viral.
To find a for(u)m that accommodates the mess, that is the task of the artist now. (Samuel Beckett)

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Post by NickFaulks » Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:01 pm

John McKenna wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:18 am
Chess life and human life itself will struggle to return to what it was before this virus went viral.
The virus will probably carry off around 0.01% per the working population and, happily, only a miniscule proportion of children. Can it really be the case that human life will be changed more dramatically than it was by the Black Death, the Great Plague or WW2?

If so, the only conclusion is that the human race has made itself more prone to collapse in the face of relatively minor adversity that at any previous time in history.

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Post by John McKenna » Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:14 pm

Even as late as the 1930s - never mind the Middle Ages when it took months to journey to Asia or the Restoration when it took months to sail to the Americas - air and sea travel was undertaken by a small minority of people and the world was full of divisions - geographic, economic and social

After WW II the changes the war brought about have resulted in the global integration of all humanity - the divisions were largely swept away and even the last lost tribes have been contacted and dragged into the 21st century, like it or not.

The global technological consumer society that now straddles the world is highly and finely tuned. It is using huge quantities of raw materials and energy to sustain and grow itself for the benefit, great or small, of ever-increasing billions of humans

Therein lies the problem and the adversity - not in the latest coronavirus which is at large. The virus is more of a minor symptom of a much greater ill.

The real plague on the planet is us. There are simply too many of us. And the ecological footprint of human activity is just too big. If all the world continue to aspire to live like the population of the USA there will be major adversities in the not-too-distant future.
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Post by Paul Buswell » Wed Jul 01, 2020 8:36 pm

Returning to normal? French clubs could re-open from 22 June, with heavy restrictions as below:

see also:
http://www.echecs.asso.fr/Actus/12707/g ... uin_v2.pdf

and the full government text: http://sports.gouv.fr/IMG/pdf/sportsgui ... ches-2.pdf

_______________________________________________________________________________________

LE RYTHME DE REPRISE DES ACTIVITÉS ENVISAGÉ PAR ÉTAPES PAR LA FÉDÉRATION :
• Dès le 22 juin 2020 : Les entraînements (jeunes ou adultes) reprennent sous forme de cours magistraux en
respectant les 4 m2 minimum par personne et 10 personnes par séance encadrement compris. Aucune
partie ne peut être jouée en face à face.
Par la suite :
• Etape 2 : Suivant les consignes gouvernementales, possibilité de jouer en un contre un en respectant les
mêmes préconisations au sein des clubs et en espaçant les échiquiers d’un mètre minimum
• Etape 3 : Reprise des compétitions
LES ACTIVITÉS PROPOSÉES :
• Cours collectifs sur échiquier mural ou vidéoprojecteur respectant 4 m2 minimum par joueur en statique
• Pratique à distance dans le respect des règles de distanciation physique
• Parties sur tablettes, smartphones, ordinateurs ou en présentiel avec un échiquier par personne
• Pas d’échange de matériel pendant les cours, ni de manipulation des mêmes jeux, pièces et pendules
• Aucune partie en face à face
LES PUBLICS CONCERNÉS :
• Les licenciés et l’ensemble des pratiquants en adaptant le nombre de personnes accueillies en fonction
de l’espace disponible
• 10 personnes maximum par séance, encadrement compris
LES LIEUX DE PRATIQUE ENVISAGÉS :
• En intérieur à son domicile personnel pour le jeu en ligne
• En extérieur dans le respect des règles de distanciation pour les cours et la pratique à distance
• En intérieur pour les entrainements sous forme de cours magistraux mais sans aucune partie en face à face
FICHE ÉLABORÉE EN COLLABORATION
AVEC LA FÉDÉRATION FRANÇAISE DES ÉCHECS
ÉCHECS
Mise à jour 3 juin 2020
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Dans le respect de ces données générales, des précisions complémentaires relevant de la responsabilité
fédérale peuvent être disponibles sur le site internet de la fédération : www.echecs.asso.fr/
LES AMÉNAGEMENTS IMPOSÉS PAR LE CONTEXTE SANITAIRE :
• Affichage des gestes barrières au club
• Relevé des personnes par liste de présence
• Faire respecter le port du masque aux encadrants, dirigeants et joueurs adultes
• Ventiler et aérer le club régulièrement
• Mise à disposition de savon et de gel hydro-alcoolique
• Respect de la règle des 4 m2 minimum en statique
• Le club est responsable des installations, du fléchage et du nettoyage régulier des locaux ;
• Désinfection des pièces entre chaque séance ou utilisation de matériel personnel (chaque pratiquant
vient avec son échiquier).


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Re: (Chess) Life Returning To Normal

Post by David Robertson » Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:45 pm

Very correct. And totally impractical. Who'd want to undertake all this faff just for a game of chess? And it still doesn't eliminate the risks impacting on key at-risk groups. Good try, mes amis, but no cigar

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Re: (Chess) Life Returning To Normal

Post by Tim Spanton » Wed Jul 01, 2020 10:30 pm

Lists of Prague entries for tournaments starting Aug 8:
http://chess-results.com/Tnr529730.aspx?lan=1 (one ENG entry)
http://chess-results.com/tnr529731.aspx ... ES&flag=30 (one Eng entry)

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Re: (Chess) Life Returning To Normal

Post by John McKenna » Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:09 pm

"Japan Chess Classic 2020

July 23rd-26th

7R Swiss. 90min+30sec/move
FIDE rated

Entries capped at 48!

*5 players and 1 female player will qualify for Japan Chess Championship 2021.

COVID-19 Special Guidelines:

Please make sure you understand these guidelines before signing up for the tournament -

(1) Wear a mask or a face cover inside the venue
(2) No handshaking
(3) No analyzing of games in other rooms is allowed
(4) Sanitize hands upon entering the venue
(5) If asked to have the temperature checked and if it is above 37.5℃, the player is requested to leave immediately. The player’s game will be recorded as 0F

*By registering for this event, you agree to the above rules and guidelines

The organizers will follow these guidelines:
(1) Open windows regularly to air out where possible
(2) Sanitize all equipment after each round
(3) No observers to be let inside the venue"

FM Simon Bibby a longtime resident expat has entered.

For background on that see -

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10747&p=243546&hilit=Bibby#p243546
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Post by Adam Raoof » Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:30 pm

How much does it cost to buy a device to test temperatures, non-invasively?
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Post by Mick Norris » Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:44 pm

Adam Raoof wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:30 pm
How much does it cost to buy a device to test temperatures, non-invasively?
Avoiding the invasively joke, under £30
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Post by Adam Raoof » Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:03 pm

Mick Norris wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:44 pm
Adam Raoof wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:30 pm
How much does it cost to buy a device to test temperatures, non-invasively?
Avoiding the invasively joke, under £30
exactly - as people come in the door! Given that you would probably warn people not to attend if they feel unwell or if they have a temperature, you would have to turn them away if they fail that test.
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Re: (Chess) Life Returning To Normal

Post by Mick Norris » Thu Jul 02, 2020 4:59 pm

That's what my optician did; my daughter and I had to turn up with masks on, knock on the door, then get temperature checked before we could come in

Masks and glasses not a good combination, mine keep steaming up
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Re: (Chess) Life Returning To Normal

Post by Richard Bates » Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:13 pm

David Robertson wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:45 pm
Very correct. And totally impractical. Who'd want to undertake all this faff just for a game of chess? And it still doesn't eliminate the risks impacting on key at-risk groups. Good try, mes amis, but no cigar
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